America’s Famous Serial Killers!

Note: This article on America’s famous serial killers was originally published on September 7, 2008 and has since been updated to include profiles of additional American serial killers.

In our original look at some of America’s famous serial killers, we looked at thirteen of the most notorious serial killers in American history. But those murderers are far from the only serial killers our nation has seen.

Now let’s add five more names to the list — more American serial killers you might (or might not) have heard about.

Dean Corll

Deal Corll - The Candy Man - serial killer
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Dean Corll, also known as “The Candy Man,” didn’t act alone. He worked with two accomplices — Elmer Wayne Henley and David Brooks. Corll is thought to have murdered at least 28 boys in the Houston area from 1970 through 1973. The boys were beaten and raped while tied to a plywood “torture board.” Victims were killed with a gun or by strangulation.

Dean Corll wasn’t prosecuted for his crimes. He was killed by one of his accomplices (Henley). While Henley was convicted of six murders, he wasn’t charged with killing Corll. That was ruled to be self-defense.

Amy Archer-Gilligan

Amy Archer Gilligan - serial killer
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Amy Archer-Gilligan ran a convalescent home in Connecticut. Oddly, her murders inspired the comedy “Arsenic and Old Lace.” She killed residents of her nursing home by poisoning them with arsenic and strychnine shortly after they’d paid her large sums of money. It’s also believed that she killed her wealthy second husband for the inheritance. According to the New York Daily News, “it’s estimated that at least 20 people, and some estimate as many as 100, including her husbands, died by her hand.”

She was only tried for one murder — that of Franklin R. Andrews. She was found guilty and sentenced to death in 1917 and was granted a new trial on appeal. This time she pleaded insanity. She was again found guilty and this time sentenced to life imprisonment. She was moved to a hospital for the insane in 1924. She died there in 1962.

Juan Vallejo Corona

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Juan Vallejo Corona is a Mexican American serial killer who preyed upon the workers he supplied to fruit ranches in California. It is believed that Juan Vallejo Corona killed at least 25 laborers whose bodies were found buried in the orchards they worked at. No clear motive was ever given for the killings.

Corona was found guilty of the 25 murders in 1973 when he was issued 25 life sentences. His conviction was overturned in 1978 and he was tried again in 1982. He was again convicted of the crimes. He is still serving time at the Corcoran State Prison in California.

The Boston Strangler

Alber DeSalvo - The Boston Strangler
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The Boston’s Strangler’s true identity still hasn’t been confirmed, although Albert DeSalvo confessed to being the notorious northeast killer. This unknown serial killer murdered at least 13 women in Boston between 1962 and 1964. Most of the women were sexually assaulted before being strangled, although one elderly victim died of a heart attack and at least two victims were stabbed. Victims’ ages ranged from 19 to 85.

Albert DeSalvo confessed to the stranglings in 1964 after being caught and charged with other sexual assaults (where the victims were not murdered). He was sentenced to life in prison, later escaped but turned himself in, and was ultimately stabbed to death while he was incarcerated.

Many people still believe DeSalvo lied about being The Boston Strangler however, due to inconsistencies and inaccuracies in his claims, DNA evidence that would seem to clear him in at least one case, and the belief that the crimes were too different to all be committed by the same person.

The Zodiac Killer

The Zodiac Killer
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The Zodiac Killer, who has never been identified, attacked couples around San Francisco in the late 1960s. The Zodiac Killer claimed to have committed 37 murders in total, but only seven have been confirmed so far. They included three young couples and a young man. The known victims were either shot or stabbed.

The killer himself came up with the “Zodiac” name when he used it in letters to the press. He sent them four coded messages (cryptograms). Only one of them has been definitively solved — by a high school teacher. In that letter, the killer expressed his joy in killing, calling it “so much fun.” And he claimed that the people he murdered would become his slaves in the afterlife.

Read on for our original list of America’s famous serial killers or leave a comment to tell us about a serial killer we haven’t covered here.

Update: Please also check out another list of Notorious Serial Killers

Serial killers — you’d be hard-pressed to spot them in a crowd. They look just like everyone else. In fact, most of them are soft-spoken and polite. Their monstrous nature comes through only when you delve deeper into their personalities, actions and habits.

Reading the gruesome tales of serial killers sends a chill up the spine.  Most of them seem to have had a dysfunctional family setting and were abused as children — emotionally, sexually or verbally. It’s as if this activates some psychological trigger in their minds, increasing the feelings of inadequacy or worthlessness, and causing them to seek out their own heinous form of release.

There have been hundreds of serial killers in the history of America, and there are a few that tend to stay in the minds of citizens, becoming “famous.”

Here are just a few of the (in)famous serial killers that have walked the streets of our nation, in no particular order. There may be many others that are notorious or have killed more people, but we picked a few of the more famous killers that truly shocked us.

Ed Gein (Killings between 1947 and 1957)

Known as history’s most inspirational killer, his character became a central element in many films, including Alfred Hitchcock’s thriller Psycho and the character of Buffalo Bill  in The Silence of the Lambs, among others.

Modus Operandi

Gein was a serial killer who skinned his victims, exhumed corpses, and decorated his home with parts of his victims’ bodies. Human skin was used to make dust bins, furniture, and even clothes.


Gein was born in 1906 as the younger of two boys. He had a weak alcoholic father and a domineering mother who was deeply religious. He was said to be very attached to her. She taught them about immorality and the evils of women and sex and discouraged their sexual desires. He turned into an effeminate and shy boy.

His father died as a result of his alcoholism and later his brother Henry, who used to criticize his mother about Gein’s unhealthy attachment to her, died in a mysterious fire. The younger boy was later suspected.


With nobody to control him after his mother passed away, Gein became obsessed with sexual fantasies and female anatomy. Fascinated by the human experiments performed in Nazi camps, he started robbing graves to perform experiments of his own, including exhuming his own mother’s body. The experiments became gruesome and cannibalistic. He had the desire to turn himself into a woman and would create breasts out of human skin and drape them over himself. He believed that for a sex change, he would need fresh bodies and thus started his killing spree, which was said to be because of his love-hate relationship with his mother.

House of Horrors

When police finally caught up with him, they found a variety of gruesome sights — hanging corpses with their throats and heads missing, bowls made of skulls, pieces of jewelry made of human skin, hanging lips, skin upholstery for chairs, and masks made of facial skin and vulva (including his mother’s) that were painted silver. The most shocking discovery was perhaps his mother’s heart, which was found in a pan on the stove.

Killings and Sentence

Police counted 15 women as his victims. Gein told the police that he never had sex with any of the dead women as “they smelled too bad.” His fascination with women was because of the power they held over men. Gein was admitted to Waupan State Hospital and died of cancer at the age of 78.

Ted Bundy (Killings between 1974 and 1978)

Ted Bundy proved that even the devil can be attractive. Bundy was one of the most infamous serial killers in American history. He was handsome, charming and cultured, all traits playing a role in his ability to rape and murder numerous young women. He even engaged in necrophilia (sexual attraction or involvement with corpses).

Modus Operandi

Bundy had unique techniques of luring his victims. He would drink alcohol before approaching potential victims, even in a crowd or in broad daylight, and gain their trust by faking an injury with his arm in a fake cast or a sling. He would at times act as a policeman or fire department personnel. After luring victims to his car, he would hit them on their head with a crowbar. He then raped and assaulted them sexually before strangling and mutilating them.

This good looking maniac used to visit the corpses several times at the Taylor Mountain body dump site, apply makeup to them, and sleep with them till they putrefied.


One of the theories says that he started killing people as early as 14 years old. Many of his victims are said to have a physical resemblance to his first girlfriend.

Bundy was born Theodore Robert Cowell in 1946 in Burlington, Vermont to an unmarried mother of 22. He gets his name from his stepfather. He was made to believe by his grandparents that he was their son and that his mother was actually his sister.

He was a good student, and like most young people devastated when his first love left him. Bundy didn’t deal with the grief as most people do though. He spent years trying to get her back, and when he did he started killing innocent people and then dumped his girlfriend just as she dumped him.

Killings and Sentence

He was executed in 1989 after confessing to 40 murders.

Before his execution, he revealed that his addiction to pornography led him to do what he did. He said that there are many people out there who were addicted and nothing is being done about them.

One of Bundy’s famous quotes – “We serial killers are your sons, we are your husbands, we are everywhere. And there will be more of your children dead tomorrow.”

David Berkowitz – Son of Sam (Killings between 1976 and 1977)

Better known as the Son of Sam or the .44 killer, David Berkowitz is a New York City serial killer who killed six people and wounded many others. His crimes became famous because of his letters to the media and the police, in addition to the reason he committed these crimes.

Reason for Killing

Berkowitz gave an odd reason for killing – he claimed that to keep the demons quiet, he started doing what they wanted. When dogs howled, he started believing that these dogs were demons asking him to kill women. He was convinced that his house owners, Jack and his wife, were part of the demon conspiracy and Jack was the commander in chief of all the dogs.

Later he shifted into another apartment but was still controlled by the demons in his mind. His new neighbor, Sam Carr, had a black Labrador which Berkowitz believed was possessed. He shot the dog. That did not provide any relief as he began believing that Sam Carr was possessed by the biggest demon, and perhaps Satan himself. Each night these demons told Berkowitz to kill and quench their thirst for blood.

He also used to write letters to the police and media, essentially taunting them with details of his killings.


David Berkowitz, born 1953, was an adopted son of a middle class family in the Bronx. Although his parents loved him, Berkowitz carried a lot of anger and guilt inside him as he felt responsible for the death of his natural mother, who he was told died giving birth to him. Experts believe that could be the reason for his aggressive behavior.

He was devastated when his mother died of cancer and his father remarried and relocated to Florida, leaving him behind when he was 18.

Later he found out that his natural mother was alive and that he had a sister. There was a reunion, butit was too late for him by then as he preferred his isolation and delusions.

Killings and Sentence

Berkowitz received a 365 year prison sentence and told the FBI that he invented the “Son of Sam” stories to convince the court that he was out of his mind. He then said the real reason he killed was partly because he hated his mother for leaving him and partly his failure with women. He felt sexually aroused when he killed women, and he killed six of them.

John Wayne Gacy (Killings between 1972 and 1978)

A respected member of the Junior Chamber of Commerce, a precinct captain in the local Democratic party, the owner of a contracting business and a performing joker at children’s parties, John Wayne Gacy seemed as normal as they come.

He came to be known as one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history.

Modus Operandi

Gacy lured his victims into handcuffs in the pretext of showing them a pair of trick handcuffs he used in his clown act. He’d then dare the youth to free themselves. Once the boys were handcuffed, he would use either a rope or a board across their throats to kill them while he raped them.


Gacy was born into a blue-collar family in 1942 and had two sisters. His father was an abusive alcoholic who verbally and physically abused his children. Gacy deeply loved his father and strived to please him, but failed.

He had the ability to persuade an manipulate people, likely because of how normal and harmless he seemed on the outside. He later got married and had two kids of his own, but his wife left him when he was arrested for trying to coerce a fellow employee into homosexual acts.

Another thing to note is that he injured his head by falling off a swing when he was 11 years old. He suffered from blackouts until he was 16, and then was diagnosed with a blood clot and the condition was corrected.

Killings and Sentence

When Gacy realized that police were about to arrest him, he surrendered himself. He told them, “There are four Johns” (similar to multiple personalities) — one was a contractor, another a clown, one a politician, and the fourth went by the name Jack Hanley, and he did evil things.

Gacy confessed to more than 24 murders and drew a map to 28 graves under his house and garage. He also said he threw five others into the Des Plaines River.

He was executed with a lethal injection on May 10, 1994. His last meal consisted of fried chicken, Coke, French fries and strawberry shortcake. His last words were, “Kiss my ass.”

Jeffrey Dahmer – Monster (Killings between 1978 and 1991

This Milwaukee serial killer murdered boys of Asian and African descent. His murders were gruesome and involved torture, forced sodomy, dismemberment (removing their limbs), necrophilia, and cannibalism.

He was arrested first when caught fondling a 13-year-old boy in Milwaukee and was sentenced to one year in a work release camp. After serving ten months, he was released on probation for his good behavior. That’s when his killing spree began.

He committed his first murder at the age of 18, shortly after being released, and his first victim was a 19-year-old hitchhiker.

There was a much-talked about story about a 14-year-old boy who almost escaped Dahmer in 1991. He wandered into the streets without clothes, with Dahmer in pursuit. Police believed Dahmer’s story that the boy was 19 years old and was his partner, and took the boy to Dahmer’s house. In spite of noticing a weird smell there, they left without investigating. Soon after, the boy was killed and Dahmer kept his skull as a souvenir.


Dahmer was the son of an analytical chemist, and as a child he had a fascination with dissecting dead animals. By the time he was a teenager, he was an alcoholic and a loner. He dropped out of college and his father forced him to enlist in the Army. After just two years, he was discharged because of his heavy drinking. Since he did not want to face his father, he moved in with his grandmother and lived with her for six years. His grandmother asked him to move out when he was arrested for exposing himself in public.

Killings and Sentence

Dahmer was caught by the police when a would-be victim escaped and alerted them. He was held responsible for 15 murders, sentenced to 15 life terms. Dahmer then expressed remorse and wished death upon himself. He was beaten to death by a fellow inmate and died of severe head trauma.

Gary Ridgway – The Green River Killer (Killings between 1982 and 1984)

“I hate most prostitutes. I did not want to pay them for sex. I also picked prostitutes as victims because they were easy to pick up without being noticed. I knew they would not be reported missing right away, and might never be reported missing.” These were the words of one of the worst slayers in American history, who was said to have killed more women than any other serial killer — Gary Ridgway.

The Green River Killer drama unfolds at Aurora Avenue on the banks of the Green River where hundreds of prostitutes hang around, and where on July 15, 1982 the body of a 16-year-old prostitute was found. She was the first victim of the infamous Green River Killer and was raped and strangled to death. He had the habit of finding a landmark and leaving a group of dead bodies in ‘clusters,” to remember easily. Driving by these clusters and remembering them gave him a high.

The killings continued and police couldn’t find a clue, so the “Green River Taskforce” was formed in 1984. The death toll had reached 26 by then.

Ted Bundy’s Help

Another serial killer, Ted Bundy (who was sitting on a death row), offered to assist the police and gave them several clues into the working of a serial killer’s mind until the time he was executed.


Ridgway was born in Salt Lake City, Utah and he had two brothers. He had a domineering mother who constantly yelled at their father and controlled Ted completely, and she was never pleased with what he did. Ridgway’s IQ was 80, which signified a slight mental deficiency. He had a troubled adolescence and stabbed a six-year-old kid when he was 16. He always had an obsession with prostitutes.

He was married for fourteen years and he managed two totally different identities: one the life of a wonderful husband going on romantic vacations, and the other of the infamous serial killer.

Killings and Sentence

The Green River Killer caused mayhem for two and half years during the 1980s. He pleaded guilty to 48 charges in 2003, but claimed to have killed 71 women. A controversial plea bargain he entered into spared him execution in exchange for helping to locate the remains of all of those women by providing details. This created a lot of controversy as many people believed that a person who murdered so many people should not be spared the death sentence.

He was sentenced to 48 life sentences and is currently incarcerated in Washington at the Washington State Penitentiary.

Belle Sorenson Gunness (Killings between 1900 and 1908)

Unlike many other female killers, Gunness didn’t poison her victims — she slaughtered them. She was a 42-year-old Norwegian immigrant who purchased a property in La Porte, Indiana using her first husband’s insurance after his death. Her husband and two of her children were said to have died mysteriously, although she wasn’t suspected. After moving to La Porte with the rest of her children, she married Peter Gunness who died after just nine months. She collected another insurance payment. Over the next few years, other men that came into her life vanished without trace.

She became famous for being a black widow — killing several of her husbands, ranch workers and adopted children.

Modus Operandi

She would place matrimonial ads in newspapers and promised men marital bliss and a life filled with love. Several hopefuls traveled to La Porte carrying their life savings with them. She would then drug them and cut them up as she cut her hogs. She would then wrap them up with oilskin and bury them at her farm.

A letter she wrote reads – “My heart beats in wild rapture for you, My Andrew, I love you. Come prepared to stay forever.”


There are various accounts of her background. She was said to be one of eight children and was born in Stoersetgjerdet in Norway. One story goes that she got pregnant with a man and he kicked her in her stomach in public causing her to lose her child. He disappeared soon after. According to her sister, Belle was said to be crazy for money.

Missing Mysteriously

In 1908, Gunness’ farmhouse caught fire and burned to the ground. When it was put out, the remains of several people were discovered — men, children, and even a woman. The children were identified as hers. The woman was assumed to be Gunness herself, although there was no head. It was thought she died in that fire.

Many butchered bodies were found around her property, carved like turkeys. The heads were cut off, arms removed, and legs sawed off at the thigh.

Despite the assumption that she died, her ranch hand and lover, Lamphere, claimed that he helped Belle fake her own death and run away when he was arrested. Officially, she was presumed dead.

She was said to have killed 49 people.

Charles Manson (Killings in 1969)

Called the “most dangerous man” and the “devil,” Charles Manson was the terror of the 60s.


He was born in 1934 to a 16-year-old mother who was a troublemaker. She left him with his aunt or grandmother most of the time. She was arrested on armed robbery charges and sent to a penitentiary, leaving Manson to live with his aunt and uncle. Even after she was released, his mother didn’t want the responsibility of looking after him. She was even willing to trade him for a drink. His father was never in the scene from his birth.

Manson turned out to be a troublemaker himself, and he was sent to a reform school at the age of nine. By the time he was 26, he was charged with rape, drug charges, stealing, pimping, and more.

He was religious and used this to manipulate people into following him. When he was 34, he formed the “Charles Manson Family” by attracting a group of followers — mostly young women with troubled pasts. He used amphetamines to alter their personalities and they started calling him “Jesus Christ” and did everything he wanted, including physical favors.

He was a music lover who believed that the “Beatles’” were prophets sent to earth to warn of an upcoming revolution. Manson focused on an Armageddon, where the blacks would rise to power and kill all whites and the Manson family would be the only white family living. He felt the blacks wouldn’t be able to stay in power because of an inferiority complex and that the Manson family would then rule the world.

When this did not happen, he started having people killed by his “family” members.

Killings and Sentence

His first murder was that of Sharon Tate, wife of director Roman Polanski. The next was the LaBianca family. He was sentenced to death but later reduced to life imprisonment, when California Supreme Court eliminated death penalties temporarily. He is currently an inmate at Corcoran State Prison.

Albert Fish (Killings between 1919 and 1930)

Albert Fish may have been America’s most vile pedophile, serial killer, and cannibal. He is known by many names — Gray Man, Brooklyn Vampire, The Boogeyman, and the Werewolf of Wysteria. He was a gentle-looking and benevolent grandfather, a total contrast to the monster within him. His wife considered him a wonderful husband and his children believed he was a model father. Some of his crimes seem unbelievable.


Hamy Fish (his birth name) was born in Washington D.C. as the youngest of four children. Several of his family members had mental health problems. After his father’s death, he was put in an orphanage by his mother and he was whipped at the orphanage frequently. That’s said to be when he began to realize that he enjoyed physical pain and felt aroused by it. Then he entered into homosexual relationships at the age of 12 and was introduced to other perverse practices of drinking urine and coprophagia. His weekends were spent visiting public baths to watch boys undress. This led to male prostitution, which continued even after his marriage and the births of his six children.

Turning into a Psycho-Masochist

He also developed an unusual interest in castration and visited brothels where he got himself whipped and beaten. He pushed needles into his body, including his genitalia. X-rays later revealed a total of 27 needles inside him.

It was at the age of 55 that he started experiencing hallucinations. He believed God ordered him to castrate young boys. This was diagnosed as religious psychosis and is what led to the several mutilations and murders he committed.

Killings and Sentence

Although he was a suspect in five killings, he stated that he “had” around 100 children in all states. Nobody knew whether he was talking about cannibalization or molestation. He was executed on an electric chair.

Herman Webster Mudgett – Dr. Holmes (Killings between 1893 and 1895)

Mudgett’s criminal career started as a medical student who stole corpses from the University of Michigan. He used those corpses to collect insurance money on policies taken under fictitious names. He then started a drug store empire and constructed a huge hundred-room mansion with trap doors, lime pits, fake walls, acid vats, and secret entrances.

Modus Operandi

He would rent rooms to visitors and then try and collect the insurance when they were killed there. He also used to lure women to his “torture castle,” promising marriage. He would then throw them down the elevator shaft and gas them to death. But before he did that he would force them to sign all their life savings over to him.


Herman was born in New Hampshire and his father was very strict, often bullying his son. He had a well-known fear of the local doctor’s office and because of this other students in his school would often force him to touch human skeletons. What was meant to be a scare turned out to be a fascination, which led to him stealing corpses while in medical school.

He started using the name “H.H. Holmes” after moving to Chicago and got engaged in a lot of shady activities. He is also a bigamist, married a second time and a third time while still married to the first wife. He was known to be a charmer and a ladies’ man.


His huge castle with secret passages had a drugstore and other shops on the ground floor and the upper areas were used as his office. There were more than a hundred rooms without windows, and there were doorways that opened into brick walls. There were also stairways to nowhere, doors that could not be opened from the inside and several other such oddities. This was to become his killing den.

It was here that the killing spree sprouted over a period of three horrible years. Female victims were mostly his employees who were required to take a life insurance policy where Holmes would pay the premiums. Soundproof rooms with gas lines fitted in were used to kill people. These victims were asphyxiated and their screams went unnoticed as they suffocated. There was a chute that took the bodies to the basement, where some bodies were dissected, flesh removed and turned into skeletal models. He sold these skeletons and other organs to medical schools.He also performed illegal abortions in the castle and many of his patients died.


Eventually police grew suspicious about the activities in the castle and when he knew he was getting caught, he burnt the castle and vanished. Remains of more than two hundred people were found in the charred debris. He was later caught and hanged.

Coral Eugene Watts – (Killings between 1974 and 1982)

Watts was the first known serial killer in the nation’s history to have legally acquired immunity, and at one point it even looked as if he would be released in 2006 in spite of having committed between 80-100 murders. When a detective said that he did not have enough fingers and toes to count all the murders he committed, Watts replied that there were not enough fingers and toes in the room. (There were four men in the room.)

Usually serial killers are said to kill people of their own race. However Watts, who was an African American, killed whites mostly.

He admitted to killing females because he saw evil in their eyes. He drowned women in a bathtub in order to prevent their spirits from escaping.

He was not caught for many years because he killed in different jurisdictions and different states. DNA tests also didn’t prove anything because he did not dally with his victims, unlike other serial killers.

Modus Operandi

Watts would drive a couple of hours to commit his murders.  He stalked women in his car, would park ahead of them, get out of the car, and then approach them. He killed females between the ages of 14 and 34 by strangulation, drowning, and stabbing. Occasionally he also used tools and other metal objects.

He started killing at the age of 20 but did not rape them, and some of his murders occurred without him even touching the women. For him, the thrill came from the hunt and attack.


Watts’ parents divorced when he was two and he lived with his mother and step-father. He was said to act weird when he was a kid. He was never good at academics but excelled in boxing.

He started having morbid dreams when he was 12, always revolving around killing women. In his dreams, he would punch their evil spirits and he usually fell off his bed. When asked by psychiatrists later whether these dreams disturbed him, he said, “No, I feel better after having them.”

These dreams slowly turned into reality when he started watching, stalking, and looking into the eyes of women to find evil. By the age of 15, he began hitting and choking them. Ultimately it wasn’t enough for him to hurt those women — he had to kill them.

Killings and Sentence

Due to lack of evidence of murder, a plea bargain granted immunity from murder if he confessed to his murders and gave details. Due to this and his good behavior, Watts could have been released in 2006. However, after Watts confessed to about 80 murders, the Michigan authorities refused to go in with the deal and got witnesses to come out and speak about a couple of murders. Watts was found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment. However, he died of prostate cancer in 2007.

Richard Angelo (Killings between April 1987 and October 1987)

Angelo was a killer with a different mindset from all others. He made the entire nation scared of hospitals. The desire to be a hero in others’ eyes made him a monster. He was 26 when he went to work at the Good Samaritan Hospital on Long Island in New York. He was a former Eagle Scout and always tried to do good things and help others.

His inability to achieve the level of praise he always desired made him a dangerous serial killer of a totally different kind.

Modus Operandi

He took advantage of the graveyard shift at the hospital to satisfy his desires. He would inject Pavulon and Anectine into patients and bring them to a near-death states. He would tell them that he was giving them drugs that would make them feel better. After injecting these drugs, the patients begin feeling numb and their breathing became constricted. They also lost their ability to communicate with the doctors and nurses. Then he would show his heroism by helping to save his victims, impressing everyone in the hospital.

Death came upon many of these patients as he was unable to intervene and save them from his deadly injections.


Angelo was a former boy scout and always wanted to be a hero. He was said to crave for attention from his parents and everyone else around him.

Killings and Sentence

He is said to have killed 25 people and was caught when one of his victims managed to use the call button for assistance after being injected. One of the nurses then took his urine sample and the test proved positive for the drugs, Anectine and Pavulon, which had not been prescribed by the doctors. All the bodies of suspected victims were tested and found positive for drugs.

Angelo confessed and said, “I had no confidence in myself. I felt very inadequate.”

He was charged for second-degree murder on multiple counts and sentenced to 61 years to life imprisonment. He is currently in the Clinton Correctional Facility in New York.

Andrew Cunanan (Killings between April 1997 and July 1997)

Andrew Phillip Cunanan, a soft-spoken intellect who had a flair for languages and discussing world affairs, was a handsome, lavish and boastful young man who associated himself only with the social elite. He earned many dubious distinctions. One was for killing the famous fashion designer, Gianni Versace, and the other is being listed by the FBI on their Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list. He was the first person from San Diego to get onto the “prestigious” list.

Modus Operandi

There was no modus operandi discovered for Cunanan. In the beginning he killed his former lovers who he felt were having an affair behind his back. The others that were killed may also have had connections with him, but nobody knows for sure. They were killed differently and with different weapons.


Cunanan was born in National City, California and was a homosexual since high school. He was known for his erratic ways. He graduated in 1987. He was also rumored to be a lover to older and wealthy gay men. His mother called him a “high-class homosexual prostitute.” However his father denied his homosexuality, calling him “an altar boy” who has a good Catholic upbringing.

It is said that in homosexual circles, once a person crosses mid-20s he is considered old. When Andrew turned 28, he was deserted by his wealthy lovers. He was left to pay off credit cards which exceeded limits, and this left him broke. He stopped taking care of his usually very trendy appearance and gained a lot of weight.

At this point another emotion reared its ugly head — jealousy. He spotted two of his young lovers seeing each other behind his back. Another thing that bothered him was the fact that both of them had reached great heights professionally while he remained stagnant.

The jealousy grew to such an extent that he eventually went to visit them, killing both of them just days apart from each other, beginning his life as a serial killer.

Killings and Sentence

One of his victims was Gianni Versace, the Italian designer. The FBI found Andrew, as he left his name signed on the pavement in front of Gianni’s house. The FBI felt that it was his way of trying to get attention, saying “Look at me. I’m the one that did this.”

He led authorities on a massive manhunt for his killings. He killed himself eight days after killing Gianni Versace. He shot himself to avoid capture.


What you have witnessed here is just a fragment of the world of savage and sadistic minds who have transformed this act of murder from a monstrous anomaly into an everyday horror. These mythic monsters capture the attention of the entire nation and end up as terrifying household names.

Looking into the psyche of a serial killer, doctors say that every individual develops positive attitude towards life and people in their early years, and this attitude is rendered negative with abuse — physical and emotional. That abuse can also come in the form of refusal to acknowledge the boundaries of an individual through excessive expectations, possessiveness, and doting, all of which are as abusive as incest or beatings.

Researchers attempting to understand how fantasies warp the serial killer’s mind say that bizarre fantasies thrive in isolation and eventually the killers feel the need to live them out. They dwell on the murder act for days before committing it, completely caught up in their fantasy. But they find that even murder never fulfills the fantasy completely, and this leads to the serial nature of their crime — always looking for satisfaction they never actually find. Many of these serial killers also keep souvenirs of their crime which helps refuel the fantasy.

Update: We found a very interesting article on Serial Killers

1,257 thoughts on “America’s Famous Serial Killers!

  1. Famous serial killers are hated but there can’t be any doubts about their popularity; they often suffer from Antisocial Personality Disorder, and thus can appear very normal in their everyday lives.

    1. People who have Antisocial Personality Disorder definitely do not appear normal. They do not get along with other people. Psychopaths appear normal.

        1. All psychopaths are antisocial but not all antisocial people are psychopaths.

          Some serial killers blend in well and appear normal and some do not. Ted Bundy appeared normal but Ed Gein did not.

          Also, not all serial killers are psychopaths. I believe Berkowitz was a paranoid schizophrenic.

          1. yes but you must relize most pediphiles are very talented at hiding their identity, they also are exceptional at compartmentalizing.

          2. Most serial killers have a messed up backround, this ultimately affects there judgment in kills and behavior when in a tangle with cops. Most killers who have been beaten or raped typically may run away or cleverly play with the cops. Most killers who grew up around a rough environment tend to slaughter there victims and try to feed off of there victims fear.
            They dont understand the difference between good and bad.

        2. no no no they are not. haven’t you ever taken a psychology class? anti social personality disorder is an obvious and very noticeable disorder those individuals usually cause problems for everyone around them, they are noticeably out spoken they lie, steal, and start fights often without motive. They are constantly getting caught by the law. Psycho paths are much more discrete about their business because they don’t want to get caught. They are usually intelligent individuals who have no remorse or really even emotions for anything. They are a walking zombie. They can’t feel a thing. don’t get me wrong i see why you draw the correlation but they are in two different categories for a reason.

          1. I’m not sure where you are getting your information, but on many points you are incorrect. People with ASPD (Antisocial Personality Disorder) are not obvious or noticeable by any means. Many people who have ASPD are not criminals or serial killers, however, all serial killers have ASPD. Those with this disorder must first meet the criteria of conduct disorder as a child (but this information is often not available to anyone after they turn 18). Criminals with ASPD commit a large variety of crimes from petty theft to murder. They are intelligent, smooth, cunning, and many people like them or would not suspect them (for example, Bundy). They show no remorse but are very capable of feelings, however, these feelings are only there to cater to their needs and wants. They enjoy their kills and gain great pleasure from them, they are just unable to feel anything for the pain of the victim. If you’d like further information, consult the DSM-IV.

          2. I am taking forensic psychology, antisocial people actually try to get in good with other people to try to hide their true motives, ASOCIAL people do not like other people and try to make trouble without motive.many people do not know that there is a distinct difference between the two. Antisocial behavior is dangerous because it is so undetectable until they are caught.

          3. Don’t speak on what you don’t know. No one knows nearly enough about Psychopaths to make any assumption about their being. What we do know leads us to believe that they can’t feel emotion, but, if you’ve ever taken a psychology class, you would know that we dont know enough about the mind itself to make that an actual fact. It would be far better to say that, from what we know, Psychopaths feel extremely little emotion; only certain feelings, and never for long periods of times. Personally, I find them fascinating. They feel that they are better than everyone else for sure. Who are we to say they aren’t?

        3. I belive that anyone with any kind of murdurus desire is one of the best people anyone could meet, and charals manson was the hottest smartest one ;D

          1. Can I ask why you think they are the greatest people you could ever meet? Killing innocent children is horrific
            And wrong there’s nothing cool about it. I feel bad fir phycologiclly challenged people for some of them can not control themselves. I don’t believe in the death penalty nither because it’s death it’s not a justified death in my eyes. It’s not our judgement that should put someone to death no matter how horrific the crime.

          2. I really hope you’re just kidding. And even then you have to be a really sick person to say something like that. I bet you wouldn’t be saying that if you were one of the victims. Charles Manson wouldn’t be so hot if he was standing over you about to kill you. I’ll be praying for you & I pray that you never get put in a situation like some of the victims we read about.

          3. How old are you? When you realize the pure terror in an experience like this you would understand. I was raped in my CHURCH when I was 14 and stabbed twice in the thigh, luckily a man passing by the bathroom heard me crying and took me to the hospital. It’s a struggle everyday to trust people! Just reading this was hard because I know personally how it feels. I agree some of them are interesting, but to have the audacity to say he is smart and sexy?!?? Mmmhmm I bet he was mother f***ing sexy while f***ing the dead corpses of peole he has raped! Think before you speak/type. If you wanna meet them so much then I hope you get your wish, but the consequence of meeting them is your life. I am offended that you would even think something like that.

          4. What is wrong with you ? this man killed innocent people who didn’t deserve it these people was someone’s daughter son brother sister father or mother …how would you feel if he killed your family or friends..would he still be hot ?? You need to see a psychologist asap you’re obviously messed up in the head .I mean it’s one thing to be interested in what they did and why they did it but to embrace them and praise them for it is just sick .

          5. I agree on meeting them. Your telling me you wouldn’t have any q?’s for em? I know I would.

          6. You seem to be a very ignorant child. Yes, indeed the psychologically challened do appear in various cases to have intelligence ranked above our own. I believe you say such things because you are, in fact, very empty. You lack this intelligence that you seek, and on a level, you place these comments in order to recieve the attention you lack. I am fourteen years old and I am, yet again, questioning the psychological abilities of today’s children. You may want to invest in councelling and recieve the required attention before you attempt something only the ignorant would consider.

          7. this people sicken me. to me people that do crimes like this should have to suffer the same feate no madder how crule the punishment. they should know how the people felt . t

          8. I totally agree. They are some of the most intelligant people. They Hunt, Plan, and that takes skill. I would love to converse with really any of them. I agree that charals was the smartest. Buttttt….. G. Damer is deff the hottest…. He is young , sexy, and a little odd. Too bad he a gay and dead. I would write him in prison. 🙂

          9. Charles Manson never murdered anyone that they can prove. Other people did it for him. That’s what makes him so incredibly smart. I have to say that certain events may make it so you disagree. But Charles MAnson was amazing

          10. I agree he is hot, and I’d love to talk to him. I’m sure I would feel differently if he had murdered someone I loved and I feel for the family’s of his victims, but you do have to admit, it would be interesting to hear his excuse. Say what you want, call me crazy but that’s what I think.

          11. Okay first off its Charles Manson, second off your a psychopath yourself if you think these people are the best people ever! They killed innocent people and it’s nasty and sick to think their is people out there in this world who think they are awesome! And btw its murderous not how you spelt it by the way. These people killed innocent children and thought it was cool. Albert Fisher was a cannibal who ATE small children how is that cool??? You are a sick person!

          12. KASSI-SAMMA: You have rage and hate in your psyche, I wonder why. You also never told your age.You seem immature. Would you take a cobra into your home? Or maybe you just like to provoke a response for attention. Whatever your reasoning is, for having that kind of attitude towards one of the biggest dick-head murderous idiots of our time, I hope you get better soon. Maybe you should try idolizing someone great like Paul Newman, or Ghandi, or even John Douglas, former FBI profiler. Get a life,hon.

          13. Since you are clearly incredibly stupid, I assure you that if you ever met anyone like these people, either you’d be dead in an instant, or they would be so disgusted by your utter lack of intelligence that they wouldn’t even entertain the thought of bothering with it. I myself am fascinated with these people. If I met one, I would hope that it would be the situation where I am safetly behind several indestructible doors and we are speaking through phones. However, I do pressume that a conversation with one of these people would prove to be…interesting

          14. yeah have fun meeting him and getting murdered and raped. sounds like a party..

          15. i have to argue .. so what someone thinks he was hot. maybe he was handsome and attractive. that is an opinion and everyone is entitled to them. i do not agree that they are the best people to meet, but i agree to the point where they are fascinating. i am currently writing to a serial killer and i love it. sure they can have problems and what they did was sick, but no one knows what they were thinking, they could of seriously been screwed up in the head, which makes them fascinating. and looks cAN even bring the victims to them. there is nothing wrong with thinking one of them was attractive but calling them the *best* not so much. but they are fascinating and very intresting. and being raped doesnt really have anything to do with the point you were trying to get across.

          16. Ya know, these people need to just calm their tits. I actually agree with you. These would be amazing people to meet. I would also like to meet Hitler. For, although I don’t condone their actions, they are all fascinating individuals. Don’t listen to these other a-holes, okay?

            P.S. Actually I think Bundy was the best looking, but I agree Manson was the most intelligent.

          17. do you know how dumb you sound? i mean i like to learn the history of all these serial killers and what drove them to be the way that they are but i’m not going to sit here and say they are the best people you can meet! -.-

          18. I think it’s disturbing what he did, but sure, it would be interesting to meet and talk with him. But by no means do I think he was hot. I believe he was smart, yes. Hot? Not even remotely. I’m not trying to provoke an arguement but if I were you, I’d want to be in a seperate area where he couldn’t get to me while I talked with him.

        4. No…actually antisocial personality disorder is the same thing as being a sociopath not a psychopath. Sociopaths know what they are doing is wrong…they just have no feelings about it one way or another. They are unemotional and void of feelings. Psychopaths just plain dont know the difference between right and wrong…their delusional, insane.

          1. what a load of rubbish, of course they ALL know right from wrong. why do they avoid capture why do some hide victims bodies, because they dont want to get caught and know its wrong. i despise labels, giving people like this a label is like justifying their actions. they are not smart or clever, they prey on peoples naievity and good natures same as a conman.paedophiles prey on childrens innocence. they are just low life pieces of dirt who should never have been born. as for those in this forum who would like to meet these ~wonderful smart sexy killers~ i am sure they would love to meet you to, especially in a secluded setting without restraints of bars and shackles and prison guards. im sure you would all have a ~wonderful~ time.

          2. ALL OF THEM DO NOT KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG. some dont run or hide. some people think this is the right thing to do. henceforth why some people are oh whats the word CRIMINALLY INSANE. unless you were in their head do not say tou know the right from wrong for them. and they are smart. modt of them are geniuses. they are clever. why? because it takes thought, skill, time, and patience to plan the way the great ones did. so think before you type. you are not one big hotshot so shut it.

          1. Just a few points, charlie Manson did not kill anyone. He I guess told others to. But he did not do the killing so I think he is some other kind of person different the the killer. So should he ever leave prison maybe by now he should. The serial killer that I think about is Richard Remeriz and I think about him for a pretty strange reason I feel he let his race and myself a person fond of his race down, He is Mexican American and I am really sad a Latin guy would do that, I idealize Latins as family men who have fun in life work hard and raise several kids he did not follow that lifestyle and it disappoints me. I read his history and I guess I understand what happened to him to make him the way he became

        5. Antisocial people are incapable of feeling guilt.

          Psychopaths are mentally ill or unstable.

          Those are actual textbook definitions from my psycology book.

          1. Maybe they should make better distinctions.
            There are several definitions for antisocial; one of which is avoiding contact with others=unsociable.
            Some serial killers were very sociable and involved in so many aspects of their community.
            I think the fact serial killers actively seek out the companyof others, even if in a malevolent manner, proves this trait to be false. They have an underlying need to be a part of something or other, just cannot do it in a constructive manner. Dahmer for example didn’t want anyone to leave him alone, therefore he killed so they couldn’t leave his side. The description doesn’t accurately describe what the term itself is relaying imo… sociopathy carries a firmer portrayal.
            They need better terminology rather than what can be confused with social anxiety disorder or with those that just prefer not to be around people, for whatever reason that may be.

          2. That’s is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You are confusing Psychopath (lack of remose, empathy, guilt & are manipulative) with Psychosis (An altered perception of reality). They are two different things. Psychopaths, sociopaths & people with ASPD are categorized the same way, sociopaths are created by environmental factors combined with genetics. Psychopaths are completely genetic (born that way). And any idiot who still uses the term Psychopath/Sociopath obviously watches too many movies. The DSM IV R now states that the terms to be used is ASPD. Stop thinking you’ve all gone to medical school and learnt psychology because if your still using those terms you are all a bunch of pathetic non sensical douchebags

          3. Says the man who spelled “learned” wrong and actually tried to make “stupidest” a word. “dumbest” is the word I believe you’re looking for, but also, stop trying to pretend that YOU’VE gone to medical school because If you had, you wouldn’t have spelled those words wrong and would’ve known that “stupidest” wasn’t a word.

        6. Not really my friend. Check the DSV-IV and you will find that there are many differences between psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder.

        7. No there is a huge difference between the two. A psychotic and an APD suffer can both distinguish between right and wrong. An APD sufferer will break laws for any reason especially to spite those around them,but a psychopath only breaks laws or does immoral things in order to benefit themselves or their purpose. An APD sufferer can seem normal but will break “character” if provoked. A psychopath will never break “character”. You will not know what they are unless they choose it. And stating that all or most serial killers have some sort of mental defect is not true. Modern psychiatry itself is still a mess and constantly changing, with the popular belief that people can’t torture or kill without some sort of mental short coming. .

        8. You are not very intellectual to think those 2 things are the same and I would suggest for you to look each of those up anywhere but the wikipedia encyclopedia!!!


      2. Actually the first person had it right. People with anti-social disorder appear to be normal; they are charming, and people are mostly drawn to them. The reason that most serial killers kill for so long is because they are so cunning and charming, that most people skip over them as suspects.One of these killers(Jeffrey Dahmer) was stopped bythe police while he had a dead body in a garbage bag in the backseat of his car. The police questioned him about the bag, and Dahmer convinced him that it was just laundry.

    2. your right but i dont hate serial killers at all of the time it wasnt even there fault as to why they got that way. grant it all of them werent like that but i admire them for there not being afaird like most people were. what they didnt didnt bother me at all it was just crazy how long it to for them to get caught

      1. true, alot of the time it isnt their fault that they end up the way they did, but what they do is awful. its terrible and their one choice of victim can effect an entire family forever.and yes it is “crazy” how long it takes these monsters to get caught…my point is that it should bother you, and if it dosent then you need to talk to someone and think about de-desensitizing yourself to what killers do. And why would you admire someone that took a living breathing human’s life? granted i hate people but the thought of killing someone….i couldnt even imagen what would go through someone like Micheal Ross’s head when they deside to end someone’s life…and if you think i dont know what im talking about…my aunt was murdered by Micheal Ross…

      2. so them killing all of these people didnt bother you? and how is it not their fault they are like this, they need to take responsibility with their own actions, noone made them this way, they chose their life and made it like this

    3. hey hey hey, you guys stop arguin..does it really matter? what point are you trying to prove?. the main thing is that these people have been caught, sadly, authorities couldnt of caught them sooner to avoid more deaths but hey, theyre caught.instead of arguing about these syndroms and stuff, we should be working togehter, learning the patterns of these people so that we can catch the rest of them and provide more safety.

      1. unfortunately learning these behaviours, they will soon become public knowledge, and thus the process begins all over again. i have often thought that murderers will increase their ability to remain unknown is by removing an MO. police base their suspects largely on the MO, if there is a constant and strict regime they leave themselves open to error and tracking. if you note, one of the killers above became difficult to track due to his constant hopping of locations and methods. this leaves police investigating several murders as seperate cases and leaves them with pockets of information where they cannot figure out who it is they are after. unfortunately there is a chance this may already have occured, due to some serial killers need to kill isnt always driven by a need to murder there mothers over and over (example) or to murder people of same ethnicity or same hair colour etc. it could possibly be driven by the simple need to kill, this isnt typical i admit,at least i dont think it is, this is just theoretical. but ive sort of forgotten my point haha, i think i was saying that studying the murders of previous serial killers allowes the police to understand what killers may do, but it will eventually become unusable information as criminals are constantly addapting to remain out of jail. which seriously sucks

        1. Very true. The F.B.I. Made a profile of a serial killer that was say a trucker who had no MO. A new city, weapon, victimology, etc. This would make said killer virtually impossible to track or even be noticed without direct linking evidence between the crimes. This is very disconcerting, especially since the U.S. Has the most serial killers and highways of any other country. The last speculation was that there are 20-50 serial killers are active at any time just in the U.S. Folks. Just remember to be careful and suspicious of all people. A little bit of paranoia is okay. Just don’t go overboard.

      2. “hey, hey, hey you people” is right on.
        What ARE you trying to prove? There is nothing TO prove. There only is what there is.
        We can study them and try to learn how to define them from every possible angle but, they are just themselves. Maybe a little different from one killer to another but, still, they just are what they are. They either will or will not be “caught”. It’s just the luck of the draw whether they will or will not be caught or when/where they’ll be caught at all. Some want to be caught and some don’t. They’ve always been there, in ANY society and they always will be… No, they shouldn’t be allowed to continue killing and we should try to stop them when it’s possible, but the rest is just what I’ve stated, above.
        Dictionary needed here, folks, for me as well. 🙂

    4. This list is good, but so many facts are left out and some things added that never happened(like Bundy sleeping with the rotting corpses) not good if your doing anything important with this info.

      1. Bundy did in fact have sex with the women he killed after the fact and would even return to the location that he left them days after to again have sex with them. He admitted it to the authorities. Saw it on either the History Channel or NatGeo, can’t remember which. Truly disgusting.

    5. It is a common myth that many serial killers are anti-social. Just look at Ted bundy he is an outlier in your claim, their are also black widdows who kill for finanacial reasons

    6. i dated and lived with a sociopath and his family who were also mostly sociopaths. They are very dangerous. And so manipulative u cant listen or talk to them its like they send a spell on you.

      1. I would honestly love to meet and get to talk to a serial killer, that would be really cool. Of course I would want someone else with me or be behind glass, but to get to talk to someone like that, and get into their mind, find out why they did it. That would be so cool.

  2. Great list of American Serial Killers but aren’t you missing the greatest serial killer of humanity as a whole? These guys killed 100’s of people but the terrorist and serial killer I am referring to, has brutally murdered hundreds’s of thousands of them. You got to add GEORGE W. BUSH to the top of the list!

      1. Although I think the comment is too much. It’s the same mentality from the right that compares the current President to Hitler. As well as those on the right who rejoiced at the deaths of ted Kennedy & John Murtha.

        1. i think hitler should be added to the list cuz look at all the people he killed he was freaking smart as hell you know if he watched his war tactics better we would he would of won. that many people didnt derserve to die but he wanted racial purity and he was so close to getting it so close

          1. Hitler never killed anyone, but himself. NAZI’s killed people. Hitler told them to do it, they did not have to do it. I hate it when people call hitler a killer. Yes he was radical yes he was mentally unstable and i don’t condone any of his ideals of beliefs, but he never directly killed anyone.

          2. You people are amazing: serial killers should be killed DUH !!!
            by their own rules .If killing is o.k. to them it is fair for them.
            As to Hitler and his racial cleansing bulls*it there is only one race of people on the earth
            homo sapiens sapiens. the rest is just regional variations.
            He was a little short dark skinned brown eyed dark haired jew looking freak.
            As for being smart look up his academic record mediocre is being kind to him.

            Back to serial killers, if they cant help it then they are a danger to society and should be removed from it…..permanently.If it is genetic we don’t need them peeing in the gene pool . II
            f allowed to live it should be purely for the purpose of study to find out how to prevent
            them from coming into existence FAILING that how to recognize them BEFORE they

        2. They called Bush “Hitler”, too, it’s not just Obama. I think people think it is trendy/cute or they think it makes them sound educated? I don’t get it.

          1. Thats because extreme liberals think its shocking to compare President Bush to a heartless killer. They use extreme comparisons to somehow promote the negative thoughts of a political figure they dislike. They themselves are Idiots to the upmost definition.

          2. leonard hall- I agree with the fact serial killers, or simply any murder should be eliminated from existence or used for studies. They are very ingenious individuals, but that does not mean that they have the right to brutally and salvagely tear the life out of an innocent person. To those who made a disturbing comment about how you seem to have admiration towards these monsters, you really should get help if your comments were true, otherwise you shouldnt be disrespecting the victims that suffered in the hands of these beasts.

    1. bush is not on the list because hes not a serial killer

      [Editor’s note: Personal insult removed. You may disagree freely here. You may not insult others on a personal level or insult races, nationalities, genders, etc. Please keep that in mind in the future.]

    2. lol funny as hell but he was high when he made his choices ask any1 he snorted coke hell Dave Chapple even says it on his comedy tour Killin them softly

      1. wow. you’re level of education is obviously low. learn how to spell correctly before you go off sayin the President snorted coke. they said it on a COMEDY tour. Bush is a hell of a lot better than Obama. He did what needed to be done. the terrorists killed thousands of our people, and we have every right to go over there to fight for our country.

        1. You know you are wrong in so many ways. Since when did Saddam Hussein kill our people? I believe he killed his own people if Im correct. We just had to stick our noses in their damn business. Why cant countries do stuff on their own. Why do we constantly have to intervene like for instance the crap going on in Libya. Oh ya I forgot its all about OIL OIL OIL…Well jesus christ they need to get their heads out of their a*ses and use the oil that we have here in our own country. Bush just wanted to finish what his little freaking daddy couldnt..Clinton was the only one to ever clean-up this countries act and got us out of recession umm lets see after BUSH did and then along comes little BUSH JR to do it all over again 8 years later. And you wonder why Obama struggles so much now its all because of them a*sholes like you that screw this country over!

          1. yeah i agree. we try to act like the god damn world police and everyone thinks theyre so fuc*ing smart because they go to college and get a paper saying theyve got a masters or ph.d. this is why everyone in the world hate america. they wouldnt be bombing us for no reason..besides the rich “know it all” as*holes that actually think they can study killer is proposterous. no two killers are alike and all have different motives or disabilities. stop acting like a bunch of snobs, they killed people so fuc*ing what they were going to die either way. that is how this world works everything lives and something or someone ends up killing it. we kill animals and do other sh*t to the enviornment but no who gives a flying fuc* but no if its a human oh dear me we must doing everything in our power to help them or catch this bastard. well i am sick and tired of humans thinking they have the absolute power and knowledge to do whatever they feel like. and all this talk about “these people” as if the serial killers were some sort of different species from another planet,we must disect them and study them is stu*id. they are humans too not some sort of other people just because theyve killed some people. everyone seems to do their part in screwing the world over but nothing is done about it, bush wasnt the only one who fuc*ed up america. there are countless others since the 1800s-now, political leaders give you a promise and people reluctant to change put their faith into one man and one government to fix a problem that affects everyone. if we really have democracy how about we start by not voting for a damn president and the people start working together to actually resolve this before we end up in the sh*thouse.

        1. HAHAHAHAHA i agree. honestly people. we’re on a site to learn about the dangers of serial killers and their mind ways and things like that and you are all arguing about politics..? honestly? do you people REALLY not have other things to do..? honestly it’s a little pathetic. everyone here has their own point of veiw and can express it in their own ways.

    3. How can you go and say that? How is he a terrorist? Do you even know how many peopled died in the war? Is it somehow cool to say that about a man that was chosen by the American people to make decisions like getting involved in the middle east? Did you even expect anyone to agree with you or say how funny you are? Please, I am begging you, stop saying those kind of things.

    4. you’re an imbecil… former president George W. Bush was a great president, whatever conspiracy that is going through your little liberal mind is definitely incorrect.

    5. Are you retarded? Whether you liked him or not he wasn’t a serial killer, and to suggest that he was makes you look stupid. I agree our American troops and families have been through Hell as a result of the terrorist attacks of ’01, but its immature and stupid to say things like this.

    6. There’s a distinction in fact and law between a someone who is responsible for a killing through agency, and someone who is a killer. In addition, we make a legalized distinction between a legally sanctioned killing and a murder. You may disagree with those distinctions as having any moral significance, but using the term “serial killer” to describe Bush, no matter what your opinions on the Iraq war, is clearly an abuse of language.

      Furthermore, considering that Bush was reelected, that his use of force was authorized by congress, and that tens of thousands of military personnel have executed his orders without question, their is plenty of culpability to go around.

      None of this is in anyway meant to suggest that I condone Bush’s actions, agree with his foreign policy decisions, or even disagree with the notion that he should be held criminally responsible. But those type of facially absurd comments just discredit truly thoughtful discussion about the issue.

  3. I wonder how long the list would be if you included all countries. No doubt they all had some disorders, however, they all seemed to come from totally dysfunctional families as well.

    1. Do you realize that u didn’t make not one bit of sense? I mean you shouldn’t put urself out there like that if ure gonna use sentences like that.

  4. Correction: insofar as the Tate-Labianca murders are concerned Charles Manson killed no one. His charge was being a conspirator in the homicides but he was never placed at the actual scene of any of the homicides.

    I rarely cite Wiki articles but this one is very well-documented and cited drawing Vincent Bugliosi’s book on the topic (Mr. Bugliosi being the State’s Prosecutor in the case).

  5. Good article.
    Small correction: Ed Gein’s character was used as a base in Silence of The Lambs. Not for Hannibal Lecter but for Buffalo Bill. Hannibal Lecter was a cannibal but he did not dress up in his victims skin. That was Buffalo Bill.

    1. Cant you read this is a direct quot from the artical you just read “his character became a central element in many films, including Alfred Hitchcock’s thriller Psycho and the character of Buffalo Bill in The Silence of the Lambs, among others” The artical said nothing about Hannibal lecter.

      1. Hannibal Lector was cloned after a real serios killer and his “character – acting” was added to the film for more suspense and show that there real people like that in life. As for Molly above and many others – to write to a serial killer you have to be sick !!!! Sorry, but you are not a medical doctor, but a 20 something or less woman with the mind of a child. Even the weird-do singer Manson took his name from Charles Manson who he glorfies and iis himself I believe a distorted unreal person. Molly – why would you write a serial killer – are you writing a thesis for your Ph.D. ? …NOT ! You get sexual kicks or adrenaline rushes from writing to a person who in a split second would slit your throat – rape you and choke you until you are dead if he had a change and the only thing keeping him from doing so is he is behind bars – you need lots of therapy dear girl – you have a fixation on a “Serial Killer” and you say this is okay ? you are one sick puppy as 99.999% of people do not write serial killers – me things you enjoy notarity and fame of such an individual – not all these serials killers belong to “Mensa” and are simply lucky to get caught for a long time. Bundy got caught in Florida speeding hin his Volkswagon – smart move on his part after all the people he killed and not knowing truly how many he has killed to date and to blame it all on Pornography – reading some of these posts makes me want to cringe, and wonder if you are of low mentality, morals, and never witnessed a killling or serial killer who reeks havoc on not just the victims, but the families of these victims for the rest of their lives and also on the community. i am for the death penalty as well !! ……………………ditto

  6. There is speculation that David Berkowitz wasn’t alone in those random killings, that he might’ve been part of a satanic cult due to the many varied descriptions of the killer. But so far Berkowitz hasn’t been forthcoming with any new leads of information thus far.

    1. Oh , but he was forthcoming , its just that the police wanted to put this to rest. Berkowitz ( a Jew) was part of a Jewish satanic cult group which whom when berkowitz named names, those he named mysteriously ended up dead. This is simply another covered up case of Blood Libel , frequent among Jews in satanic cults.

  7. @brian – you don’t have to be a terrorist sympathizer to understand that your president allowed the slaughter of thousands in the pursuit of wealth and power. also, if you had a clue at all about how the world works, you’d understand that sympathizing with a terrorist’s point of view requires no more effort than sympathizing with the 9/11 victims…unless you’re a racist…which you almost certainly are if you defend your president.


    thanks for the article. very thorough.

    1. This is by far the most ignorant thing I believe I’ve read in quite a while. To compare the victims of 9/11 to slain terrorists in the middle east in the first place is ludicrous. They did nothing but go to work that day. Terrorists lead a lifestyle that demands change through radical movements, such as suicide bombings that kill other innocents daily. Then to say its racists if we don’t side with your idea.

      [Personal insult removed. Insulting other readers in comments — individually or in any group — may result in your comment being deleted in the future, or a ban on future commenting in extreme circumstances.]

  8. Great to see America’s notorious serial killers made “FAMOUS”. I personally agree with John.. you have one “Famous” name missing in there 🙂

  9. oups you forgot to state israel and all its terrorist prime ministers responsible for serial killings and war crimes and …………………………the list is longer than you can imagine !
    add to that GW bush of course the head of of terrorists ever existed

    1. OK, OK, OK. I’ve had just about enough. First off, HITLER WAS NOT A SERIAL KILLER. What he did wasn’t SERIAL MURDER, it was definitely GENOCIDE. All of the terrorist PMs and anyone else who killed hundreds of thousands were committing GENOCIDE. Good Lord, guys. Get it together. Genocide- systematic removal of a certain race, religion, etc. of people. Nowhere does it say “serial murder” in that. Read up before you post. Makes you sound uneducated. It’s kind of sad. And George Bush, for all of his faults and fuck- ups, WAS President of this country. Now, I’m not saying he was a GOOD President by any means, but he still ran this country. Sort of. Stop. Don’t insult the people running this country. Could you imagine all of that responsibility? Do you SEE the amount of conflicting opinions we have about THIS topic? Presidents put up with all of this, PLUS some. So, unless you know what it’s like, shut your mouth. You guys are so rude, it’s astounding. Grow up, or shut up.

  10. Mandy – I think you are the one who is acting like an id**t. I don’t care what you think.. Bush is a terrorist for me!
    To add, Obama and McCain are the same

    1. I dont understand.. u americans are not united, you are not respecting ur president voted by ur fellow americans ur neighbors friends and relatives. ha-ha ur hate to each other smells like sulfur.
      I dont know if u are truly americans or not but if u are u better remove all the stars on ur flag and make it blank for good.
      Your president is the commander in chief in the Army the Navy the Air FORCE., you have a lots of personnel in arms to protect your country!! but u involved the foremost duty of a soldier in war just to protect his friends and himself? omg.
      Your country was founded, your independent was formulated becauce of your united army with rifles to kill.
      In summary you can also say your first president is similar to GW? wow its amazing……..

      1. I will gladly hand in my Stars and Stripes. We narrowly escaped a mandatory draft after 9/11 and the Patriot Act allows the government to listen in to practically any phone. I’d know; my phone was tapped because I called my father, who was a drug addict, who knew another druggie who knew another who *might* know a terrorist. Great America under Bush Jr., huh? I didn’t vote him in, or to re-elect him. Yes, we are divided; we all have differening opinions. I’m fine with that; I like a good debate on occasion. Public opinion here in the U.S. *is* fickle, but I hated the man before he made the mistakes that the *media* was interested in. The problem is that most people only follow the opinions of the papers rather than think for themselves. *That* is how America is *really* divided; those who think for themselves and those who let others do it for them. Not that everyone who voted in Bush Jr. didn’t think for themselves, but a lot of people just voted the way of their political party. While I’m glad that I wasn’t born in a place like Belarus, I don’t exactly wish that I was born *here* either.

        1. you are an idiot, you should actually read the patriot act before you talk about it and there was no draft after 9/11 cuz i am in the military and on my 3rd deployment to afghanistan

        2. Come and live in England, it’s perfect other than the fact that there are lots of immigrants that don’t speak English.

          1. We have that problem here, too. Bunch of immigrants who can’t speak a word of our language…working in the drive-thru. *shakes head*

      2. Understand there is a difference between loyalty to country and Loyalty to Government. As well as understand all humans are different.
        In a room of five people you can get a hundred and one different ideals.

        Most are united in the idea of the people themselves, the government was made to defend those rights we aimed for, voting is not exactly as well as it should be, becuase of the tech of the past some things went into place that at times can lead to where a entire country can vote one way and the electoral collage still vote for the other guy. Bla, bla, bla. Regardless, if you wish to criticize. Then I would prefer you stick to terms that would not be blatantly insulting. “I dont know if u are truly americans or not but if u are u better remove all the stars on ur flag and make it blank for good.” ? What is that?

        Meh, for others of the USA on a note: such things as “right to bare arms” was placed there for a reason. We have the right to remove our government if we feel it has become to corrupt. If you don’t like the current government then A) join it and try to fix it or B) Wait till they commit something like try to ban guns or block the internet and use the anger many will have to try to encourage removal of current government.

        Have fun.

        1. The government *is* corrupt, we no longer have people in seats of power trying to make the world a better place, all they want is a bigger pay check. Here in Australia the government is m aking us pay taxes and taxes when the prime minister makes several million each year, can they not just cut down on their own salary a little bit? they say they are doing everything they can for people living on the streets of without jobs, but they drive around ferrari’s and live in seven story mansions. This is supposed to be a democracy too, but you know what i got when i sent a letter to them? “We thank you for the lovely letter, we greatly value your opinion and we have all ready considered all options but we need more money to spend on hookers and illegal drugs.” long story short, THEY DON’T GIVE A SH*T. The world is now just a cold and dark place, where if your not born lucky you either cruise through life, get a job, get a car, live to 80 and have a reasonably priced funeral. Or you Die Young and our Prime Ministers and Presedents are none the wiser…

          But hey, what do i know? i’m only fifteen, born into a family where my pareents have no jobs my brother is in the hospital 24/7 Because he has type 1 diabetes and we can hardly afford him insulin.

          Guess who i’m pointing the finger at…

        2. This is brilliant and so true. My high school history teacher explained this to me, and I am thrilled to see there are still people who understand the constitution, this country, and what it stands for. Thank you.

      3. umm.. whoever the hell you are..? wherever you are from.. i am sure that your country is not united and you are saying some pretty strong things about our country that are a bit insulting. honestly, and you are taking these opinions about america from what? from a stupid website arguement and are stating that because of this arguement that we should change our flag and are stating that we are not united because we have different opinions about our president? when did we ever, EVER say that our president was voted for ona 100% agreement of every single person..? i personally voted for mccain. does that all of a sudden make me not american enough for you? get your facts straight and stop saying adolecent things ona stupid website. yeah i may be only 16 but it seems as if i know a hell of a lot more than you do.

      4. A lot of Americans have negative feeling toward our presidents. It’s been this way since our country was founded. We have a system of democracy in which majority rules, but the majority isn’t always right. We’re united because we can agree to disagree. We are free to voice our opinion and question authority. As thomas jefferson once said “A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny.

    2. @ John. Question, do you think every political leader in america is a terrorist? If so, do you think you could do a better job as a political leader? Just curious.

  11. It just shows that you can’t ignore mental illness. Especially in this day and age. There are way too many mentally ill people out walking around who need meds and a doctor’s care, but aren’t getting any help. Things have got to change. Maybe we can hope that those who need help get it, or that the law and the Doctors can intervene before killers like these can kill again!

    1. Medication is not the awnser to all problems especially the phycologiclly challenged. They have to want to change or the medication won’t help at all. Being locked inside of a facility is most likely best with lots of personal also… Some people just can’t help the way they are. The brains a dangerous place.

      1. I know you are not trying to be negative towards the “psychologically challenged” (I have bipolar disorder), but I just wanted to state for the record that mental illness DOES NOT equal violence or anti-social behavior. It makes living life by normal standards more difficult, but with the right tools, absolutely manageable. However, if a person hasn’t reached the point that they are willing to accept treatment you can’t force it on them. And unfortunately because of the massive stigma against mental illness in our culture most people are too ashamed to even admit it to themselves, let alone seek help. Heck, in my experience there are many people out there who don’t believe psychological conditions even EXIST, usually because they were brought up to think that. Did you know that 1 in 3 Americans either have, will have, or have had a form of mental illness in their lives whether it be genetic or triggered, permanent or temporary? ***The more you know*** hahaha. But I do agree that people should seek help if they are struggling. I just wish that society at large would quit automatically associating mental illness with nothing but psychosis, violence, and institutions. Would you tell your family and friends about it if you suspected yourself of needing help mentally?

  12. I’m with John on this Mandy. His statement is not at all exaggerated and I, being one of many, want to see him in prison for the murder’s (amongst other crimes against humanity) he’s committed. It has nothing to do with being “liberal” or any other tag you want to put on it. He has deceived us and stomped on our constitutional rights. He needs his just dues. Kudos for calling this one John!

  13. Daniel,

    Manson was also found guilty of Tate-Labianca murders.

    Here is a small piece from the powerful summation of Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi in the Charles Manson (Tate-LaBianca Murder) Trial

    Vincent Bugliosi: “In Manson’s world, he probably felt if he never himself killed anyone but had someone else murder for him, he was thereby immunized or insulated, as it were, from all criminal responsibility. Well, it is not quite that easy, and when you folks come back into this courtroom with your verdict of first-degree murder against Charles Manson, you are going to tell him it’s not quite that easy. In the offbeat world of Charles Manson he probably never heard of this rule of law. Well, he is learning about it right now.”

    After this, the jury returned its verdict on January 25, 1971, finding all defendants guilty, and sentenced them to death. Unfortunately, the death sentences could not be imposed due to a California Supreme Court ruling in 1972.

  14. Technically Andrew Cunanan was a spree killer, Charles Manson was a cult leader and most of the bodies found at Ed Gein’s farmhouse were the result of grave robbing. Gein killed one woman, and Manson killed no one himself. They are not serial killers.

    1. @Amy, no shit i completely agree with you! i expected to find some interesting comments and info that had to do with this article but instead had to read everyone’s political bullshit. so yes, stfu about that shit!

  15. What about the so called powers that be? (powers that be queer)I call them.I’ve DR.Savage & Neal Boortz call them thought cops and such. I know of people who have killed them selves because of their peeping in their minds and putting words in their heads.They have probley (slang)killed more people than any of the serial killers. Don’t forget the Clintons.

  16. You’re wrong about Charles Manson. He never directly killed anyone, which is why he didn’t get the death penalty. The only people who were murdered were murdered by his followers, not Manson himself.

  17. John Says:
    September 15th, 2008 at 8:44 am

    Great list of American Serial Killers but aren’t you missing the greatest serial killer of humanity as a whole? These guys killed 100’s of people but the terrorist and serial killer I am referring to, has brutally murdered hundreds’s of thousands of them. You got to add GEORGE W. BUSH to the top of the list!

    —Who ever you are you are awesome. I was thinking the exact same thing when I was reading this.

  18. i live in Milwaukee and i have been to the old prison where Jeffery Donner was held.
    ive been in his cell too….
    it was so scary and weird…
    its hard to describe but i never want to go there again!
    you just get that feeling that this isnt right and that u should get the hell out of there.
    people think its really cool that ive been there but for me i just hate that memory!

  19. 15 killings for Gein? Where are you getting this information from? He only killed 2 people. The rest of the bodies they found on his land were the ones he dug up from the local graveyard. Hardly a “serial killer” but infamously disturbed and highly influential in the horror business no doubt.

  20. Hey John, We agree with you that George W Bush is the biggest terrorist of them all! We also agree that Obama and McCain, are the same!

    1. This article was meant to display the background information on american serial killers. Although I disagree with labeling ALL of these people as serial killers, we cannot add George Bush or McCain or Obama to a list of people who actually KILLED people. These presidents did not physically KILL anyone. Therefore, they are not serial killers. Their actions have led to deaths…but then again…every president who has ever served this country has as well. People who join the army know there is a possibility that they will die. It’s the cost of keeping our “freedom”…so stop talking about Bush…damn…get an education!

  21. i believe this post was about serial killers not terrorists, u guys need to get that part right first. U can also say well “what about this guy and that guy” but really over the long time of civilisation of course there will be some missing. dont be so pedantic about everything. Also i believe these people were mostly americans?
    oh PS if u say Bush is the terrorist does that mean the “soldiers” who actually pull the triggers are his left hand?

      1. Actually, there were a lot of copycats for Jack the Ripper and some were in New York. If I remember right, a copycat showed up in said state shortly after the murders stopped in England.

  22. Kerryn,

    I have never in my life heard a comment as retarded as yours. You must be mentally ill. People like you are the reason soldiers get a bad name, because they cant resist punching you in the face. If I were standing in the same room when you said that, I would have beat your face until it was as big as a pumpkin.
    I did not agree with Bush’s retarded plans, I did not agree to go to Iraq and have my friends killed and watch my family suffer and other familes suffer because their brothers, husbands, sisters and wives where dying in Iraq. I fought in Iraq and I fired my weapon, but when I fired my weapon it was not because I believed in this ridiculous war, I fired my weapon because I valued my life and the life of my friends. I was not fighting a war for the monkey we call our president, I was fighting in order to stay alive and keep my friends alive. If you want to call American soldiers Bush’s left hand you are calling American soldiers murderers. I am not a murderer by any means. George W. Bush is responsible for every single death that happened in Iraq. He is responsible for all American and Iraqi deaths because he DECLARED the war and therefore all bullets left their weapons in HIS name.
    Bush is not a serial killer, Bush is worse, he is a mass murderer and he should be put on trial for war crimes.

    1. there is nothing wrong with Bush OK I am glad that you helped the war but you decided to fight in the war Bush didn’t make you at all. I really hate when people say that it is all Bush’s fault its not ok, september eleventh happened and it is the terroists fault that the war is going on. If he hadn’t we would have another september eleventh ok so EVERYONE STOP BLAMING BUSH.

    2. For every one who wont’s to know!! Please Google the {Black Eagle trust fund}
      It’s a Real eye opener and the truth about Bush From 911 to this day and way back Pr Bush is not what you think he is, Then come on back hare and post your fillings about him and the others involved
      That are to many sadly.

    3. Well said hero!!!! VERY well said!! Thank u for ur duty, and i cannot express my sorrow for u having to fight for ur life because of bush, he and his damn father ruined our country!! and they both should pay!! People are blaming Obama now, but look at what he walked into! our country didnt get the way it did over night, it took father n son many years to destroy it, so it will NOT be better over night,..Im sooo with everything u said and YOU, having fought in iraq, have more say than any of the people who never went there, never had to kill to survive…

  23. i had a bit of a laugh at the comment that was left behind by “Joe”. The fact that u use anger and not rational to oppose my comment shows what kind of person you are and why they may have chose u to go into the force. Also I can see why people like urself and other would fight in the war so dont get me wrong but u really have to see it from my point of view. Were u forced to commit to the army? If not then u made the choice to put urself in danger and ur friends did too. Also did the people u MAY have killed or injured not have the same value to their own lives? That seems retarded that u think americans have a higher hiarchy….. just from where im standing as a non-bias party who is not american…..just saying … calm down

      1. Relax if you want to keep commenting here (that goes for everyone). There is way too much nastiness overall in the comments on this post, and they won’t be tolerated moving forward. Besides, freedom of speech includes the freedom to disagree (and yes, even speak out against the nation’s troops). It’s one of the freedoms the troops are there to defend in the first place. No one is right or wrong — everyone is entitled to their own opinions. No one here has to agree with one another. But when you disagree (and this is for everyone), please do so civilly.

  24. for those of you that think being in a war is the same as being a serial killer why don’t u stop and think the art of war is not to die for your country but make the other S.O.B.die for his.

  25. These comments are retarded. John gets first prize in Ability to Completely Derail Comments. G.W. gets first prize for Most Laughably Stupid post.

    Now, Herman Webster Mudgett was absolutely nuts. I mean, all these guys are nuts but building a Castle of Torture? That’s like, classic horror story. Does anyone know anymore about that?

  26. Quote Kerryn: “Also did the people u MAY have killed or injured not have the same value to their own lives? That seems retarded that u think americans have a higher hiarchy….. just from where im standing as a non-bias party who is not american…..just saying … calm down”

    Your right, I am troubled now with a very hot a violent temper, something that I did not have before I joined the Army. I am trying to take steps to become a better person but the fact is Iraq changed my life, it may me a different person and all I can see is the negative side of these changes. I have a lot of resentment towards Bush for causing this war, because I have a hard time rationalizing the death of many of my friends. I get very angered when I see people pointing fingers at soldiers because it is not any soldiers fault that he may have killed someone in order to stay alive. I don’t think Americans have any higher hierarchy and I apologize that it may have sounded that way. In fact I would go as far to say that I think Americans are inferior because we think we are better. The American mentality that we are better at everything makes us FAIL. I think the American mentality that we are so righteous that we should lead the WORLD on the war on terrorism is ridiculous, it makes us inferior. Most of the Iraqi’s killed in Iraq under my witness, were innocently killed by American soldiers who, in fear for their life, shot someone who was not a terrorist because the poor Iraqi also reacted in fear and made himself appear as something he/she wasn’t.

    The point I was trying to make was that a soldier is sent to the battlefield without any choice, whether he objects or not. There is no such thing as a conscientious objector, this is made up BS for the media because believe me I tried. When a soldier is put into a combat zone his main objective is to stay alive. I understand that this is obviously the main objectives of the innocent Iraqi’s who also did not choose for us to enter. Unfortunately the main objective for terrorists is to kill as many people as possible and then die to become a martyr.

    It is virtually impossible to fight a war against an enemy that has nothing to lose. We fear death when terrorists welcome it.

    To get somewhat back on topic, I believe that wars and imagery of death and destruction cause mental disorders that lead to serial killers. I also believe that lack of affection at a young age sets the stage for the personality disorders that cause these types of people.

    I hope that one day we can live in a peaceful world, we could start by getting the Department of VA some better funding in order to help distressed soldiers with PTSD or anxiety and anger issues to get the help they need in a timely and more efficient way. Otherwise we will end up with more serial killers being brewed as we speak by this ineffective war in Iraq.

    1. I agreed with the comment that Kerryn left that you had responded to. I am impartial to most things because I am a hyper-rational person; I see things from all points of view.

      I have had a lot of friends and family join all branches of the military. I was going to the Marines until my friend Chris said not to. He told me about how once you have joined the military, you technically lose some of your rights; you don’t get to CHOOSE whether you’re gonna fight a particular war or not. That is why I chose not to go.

      It is a choice to join the military branches, but once you’ve joined, you don’t get much to choose from after that. That’s what people need to understand. I know people who were proud to be in the military before the whole war started because they weren’t faced with war. Then, as soon as it started, they wanted out because they didn’t agree with it. That is something people need to keep in mind; once you join, if there is a war, you have to be prepared to fight no matter what. So when you decide to join the military, give it CAREFUL consideration; you must be prepared for ANYTHING they ask of you.

      As for the PTSD, I highly agree with this as well. My friend Chris went to Iraq twice. After the first time, he was so stressed about going back. I was joking around with him one day when he came to visit (before going back to Iraq), like I usually do, and I saw something in his eyes kind of snap, and he grabbed my arm, threw it behind my back, lifted me at least a foot into the air, and threw me on my bed. After a few seconds, he came back to reality and jumped off of me and freaked out, apologizing profusely. I felt so bad for him, and I said it was ok, and I understood what happened.

      He went to the doctors and they said he was fine! That his brain was just protecting itself and that over time, while coping, he’d eventually be normal again with no drugs! He went back to war and came back even more crazy.

      At some point, he went to a doctor (not funded by the gov’t) and they were like “WHOA!” They put him on meds, and not long after he was done with his 5 years. He was thinking of going back but after the war stuff, he decided to stay civilian.

      Anyway, the main reason why I wanted to post was to tell you that I really liked how you responded with this post of your’s. You were very angry before (understandably) but you calmed down and really took a look at the whole picture and then re-explained with better detail your point of view. I found that VERY mature of you, and it was a relief to see a sense of maturity.

      I hope that more people will post future comments with maturity, facts, definitions, and examples to SUPPORT their views for good educational debate instead of posting unsubstantial opinions.

    1. It’s qiuet sad that you can make all of this out to be a joke. I wish you were not so inconsiderate but that’s you and I can not change it just give my upmost opinion

  27. George Bush responsible for all deaths… really? I’m not sure I understand. It was my belief, Joe and John, that congress had the power to declare war, not the president. Obviously he was in favor of this decision but remember, so was the majority of our country at the time. Now that all has gone down the metaphorical ‘shitter’, we have all washed our hands of blame and state “bush should go on trial”. Sure sure, the amount of people who admit they were pro war in the beginning isn’t going to equal those who actually were because somehow ‘none of us’ actually supported this plan (cough cough). Stop patronizing the president for something this entire country is to blame. We were attacked on 9/11, we retaliated, and now we’re fighting a war of attrition and trying to create a democracy in a country who would be far worse otherwise. Not to mention that the probability of being attacked again already if we hadn’t destroyed sadam, the majority of al qaida, 100’s of terrorists, etc. would have been exponentially increased. Who do we give this credit to? God forbid we give the President of the United States credit for perhaps saving our lives. No no, of course not, ‘he should be put on trial right?’ Oh n the freedom we’ve attained, john, from our personal civil war (many deaths) through wwI (many more) and currently in Iraq (some more deaths) were all in vain and selfishness correct? or j/ because this one seems a little more negative we should all hate our president. If your theory still stands, then I’m afraid to inform you that many other presidents’ heads are on the chopping block as well. And might I add, without their valiant efforts and selflessness, u’d probably be in a 3rd world country without the luxury of posting an idiotic blog on the internet with the freedom of speech we’re so fortunate to have.

    Well let me steer this a little back on topic; This is a neat and thorough analysis whcih gives great insight on many of the factors which turn humans into animals. It is amazing how a couple of years is all it takes to influence an innocent kid, into a cynical maniac with no conscience.

  28. Gaaaah! S*** up! Is it so hard to enjoy an article about serial killers without prancing around on your goddamned political warhorses?

  29. let me ask you all this….what makes some1 snap for watever reason and kill? y do u think you would?…any1 who wants to respnd feel free if you dont thats fine………i’ll b waiting X)

    1. 1) abuse depression chemical brain cells that are unbalanced guilt self hatred hearing voices hallucinations
      2)honestly I won’t ever do that but if I did it would be out of guilt selfgatred depression wonder violence abuse sadness anger and pain.

  30. I agree with Ganymede, all i,m interested in is the brilliant article on S.K,s. Forget bush and all that for now cant ya? And what about Dick van Dyke? Wasn,t he a famous serial killer? Or was he just a dancing prancing dodgy accented geezer in a Mary Poppins film.? I am quite confused, i,m sorry. So how many did this Poppins chick kill? By the way, that is my real name, as my dad was fascinated like i am with S.K,s. Sadly he died mysteriously last year when i was in Germany. Honest!!!

  31. R. Lo you are absolutely WRONG! You see congress NEVER declared war in fact the United States has not formally declared war since World War II.

    Under Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, Congress has sole power “to declare war [and] grant letters of marque and reprisal.” But Article II, Section 2 provides that “The president shall be Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.” While it’s clear that the Framers intended for Congress alone to declare war, presidents don’t always check with Congress before acting. Obviously bush did not check with congress instead he decided to declare a world war on his own. Yes he declared a World War because his intentions were to word his declaration in a way that would allow him to invade any country he would like by not declaring war on any country but instead declaring “War on Terrorism”. Then he illegally entered Iraq under BS false pretenses that Iraq had Weapons of Mass destruction, by the way Iraq never had WMD and they never had any Al Qaeda or Taliban groups inside their borders, WE HAD INTELLIGENCE CONFIRMING NO WMD, but Bush ignored that and lied to the American people. Our entrance into Iraq and our destabilization of the government created a new territory and new recruitment and breeding grounds for these terrorist organizations and now Al Qaeda is stronger than before because we created more terrorist territory and hugely increased the recruiting population.

    Yeah were so much safer now because we increased Al Qaueda’s size… we could have spent that money on border defenses and we would be 1,000,000 times safer. But Bush is a war monger just like most uneducated conservatives. Oh and don’t try to come back with Bush’s degree, its obvious that money can buy those things, have you heard Bush speak. He is an embarrassment to our nation and I cant wait until he is out of office.

  32. “Let me ask you all this….what makes some1 snap for watever reason and kill? y do u think you would?…any1 who wants to respnd feel free if you dont thats fine………i’ll b waiting X) ”

    Post Traumatic Stress Disorder causes this and PTSD is caused by wars that should not have took place to begin with. So in turn Presidents who declare war when they have no business doing so create the soldiers with PTSD who then snap and kill innocent people.

    Short Answer: President Dubya’s do.

  33. Correction: Hannibal Lecter’s character in Silence of the Lambs was not based off Ed Gein. It was in fact the character of Buffalo Bill in the same movie, instead, that was based off the same killer.

  34. My dad use to tell me the story about Ed Gein when I was growing up. He use to throw rock’s at his house. I always thought he was kidding me . Tell I seen it on T. V.

  35. I’m kind of tired of hearing people giving way too much credit to Ed Gein as a Serial Killer. Given he was a sick individual and WAS suspected in being involved of the death of his brother ( Though the true cause of death was suffocating from the smoke of the fire. Ed probably knocked his brother unconconcious, though he died of smoke inhalation, which is more like man slaughter than murder). Besides that, Ed Gein only killed two women seperated by two years. Hardly a “killing spree” as you so eloquently put it. And you also state that the police found many bodies hanging in his barn, but it was only one. that of the woman from the hardware store that police had suspected him of killing. Also you state the body count at 15 of which most of them were bodies that he had exhumed from a local cemetary. HE ONLY KILLED 2 WOMEN!!! Also you mention cannabilism. Though i’m not totally sure of this, I do know the only evidence of cannabilism and source of much debate was a SUPPOSED pot on a stove that had the heart of the woman from the Hardware store. And that is more likely a myth. I don’t mean to come off as a douchebag, but your play of words in documenting him give him way more credit than he deserves. Not to take away from him ( He did do some pretty messed up stuff, for instance having the full body skin of a woman’s body, a belt of human nipples, Yes human nipples, the human skull caps used as soup bowls, skins and other body parts used to upholster furniture, including skulls on the posts of his bed, and many shrunken heads that he supposedly made himself), But! In the end He killed two women, which does classify him as a serial killer, but you make it come off as though he Killed 15 women and had the bodies of his victims laying all over the Place. Not true!

  36. What interests me about these S.K,s is, especially JWGACY and Pete Sutcliff is the way that they went about their normal day to day routines, with jobs etc, and nobody knew a damn thing that went on when they got home after a hard day at the office and went out prowling the dirty darkened streets looking for prey. More impressive is JWG was in Newspapers, TV media coverage, photographed handing over large cheques to various charitys etc and then getting home and torturing young men and satisfying his lust. Now, is that clever or what? Did he know what he was doing? I think so, which makes it all the more interesting. Peter Sutcliff? What did he say to his workmates whilst eating his sandwhiches at dinnertime? when they were all saying things like “bloody hell, this ripper geezers done another one pete” Did he reply”what a nutter?” or did he say”he seems to be one step ahead of the plod doesn,t he? much be pretty clever if you ask me”. Know wot i mean?

  37. joe, your B.S that was completely unrelated to this article has made me so sick to my stomach… I chunked my iPhone across the room! You owe me money ! Stay focused on the topic at hand! And to be quite frank, it people like you that give soldiers like me bad names!!!

  38. this is sick…that people do things like that…for me its like they have no heart…and sometimes these people did it because they either wanted attention or was arused by it

  39. Yeah joe, you owe me money as well, whilst reading your amusing comments, or are they rants and raves from a perfectly SANE individual? Anyway, to cut a long story short, i found myself chuckling, then laughing out loud, so much so that i fell off my chair and grabbing my laptop as i fell, that smashed into pieces, i landed on my pure pedigree Staffordshire Bull Terrier who sadly died later, my mrs ran in to see what all the noise was, she slipped on broken pieces of laptop and dropped what she was holding at the time which was a 42″ plasma t.v, so that was a write off, and then my daughter came in the room to show me her new bowling balls that she had just bought that day, she slipped on the blood from my wifes head injury, the balls went through the window and landed on my new Ferrari which was just being delivered!!! So Mr Army Joe, you owe m e for a laptop, a t.v, a dog and a motor, not to mention hospital fees!! When can i expect my dosh? The Moral of my story? Well, they printed your crap which had nothing to do with serial killers, so wtf!! Now, go away so we can enjoy S.K,s.

    1. why was your wife carrying your t.v. she should have been in the kitchen making a pie. Eveybody knows you cant trust women with anything exspensive or worth something. Stupid John.

  40. Well.. i now have a rational reason to be afraid of clowns… (John Wayne Gacy)

    maybe there should be some mention of… the chicago rippers.

  41. if you do not have the comprehension or intreset in serial killers than wthell r u duin here & leaving a stupid comment like that just mind ur business

  42. When was this article published? Dennis Rader should be added as the very famous BTK Killer. Some interesting info on him. although i do hope he burns in hell – a very entertaining individual. In reply to john’s G.W. Bush comment, this is a serial killer article, serial killers act with blue prints, do things a certain way. if by chance you consider bush to be responsible for our soldiers dying in iraq.. or possibly behind the 9/11 conspiracy, that does not make him a serial killer. you’re opinion is respected, as it is your freedom of speech and mind, however, if you feel he is a serial killer, then you should really get an education on the definition. In addition, your problem isn’t with the president bush, your problem is with the government…maybe you should leave the united states, and find another government to disagree with…that is also a right in which you have… just a thought

  43. One thing you all have forgotten, GW was out to get even for a contract put o n his fathers head by sadam. Thenb tou have to take into consideration that Irac is the largest oil producing countries. Which is now under controll by halliburton, which was formerly the company that GW and dick Channey were CEO’s of.

  44. Don’t Forget about the Vagina Lip Beard Ed Gein Created . Im Working on one myself. =) Heres a riddle as well’ A man is six feet tall, is a clerk at a butcher shop, and wears size 11 shoes. What does he weigh?

  45. Oh by the way Charles manson is the biggest id*iot out of the group, why did he have to kill the beautiful sharon tate. He was a coward getting all of his minions to commit the crimes.

    1. yeah we should put them all on an island and let them kill them selves that way they wil be able to keep their drive going and they wont bother any more civilans

  46. I just did my thesis over psychopaths, basically people with extreme Antisocial Personality Disorder. A couple of these comments suggested that if they were given proper care and treatment they would be better off. This may be true when they are very young and live in adverse environmental conditions; however, some grow up in fairly normal homes and still turn out to be crazy killers. Research has determined that there are biological factors, maybe specific genes that play into it, but the problem is that they’re having a lot of difficulty determining which ones. Because of this, there are no medications to treat a psychopath and treatment in the form of therapy fails because they are so manipulative. It’s just scary that, with all of the things we can do in this world, we can’t figure out how to treat these people.

  47. you guys are all so f?????? s????d. bush is a serial killer no soldiers are serial killers. i swear to god half of the f????? idiots on here comment on shit they really have no opinion about just because they love to talk. that john f?????t has to be one of the dumbest people in the world to see a list of serial killers and think ” oh george bush should be on here” you have to be mildly retarded to have a train of thought like that. and that dumb f??? who thinks soldiers are serial killers is right up at the top of the list of dumb asses. soldiers are doing more for their country than you ever will. it doesnt matter if the war is right or wrong they at least have the balls to risk their life for their country. i dont give a shit if you dont support the war but you deserve a bullet in the back of the head if you talk shit about the soldiers. all you dirty liberals are going to put me on this list one day.

    1. my dad was in the veitnam war and they were treated like crap when they came home! i back up our soldiers every second of the day without them we wouldnt have our freedom and i am thankful everyday that they risk theyre lives for us! as for bush he did what he had to do was he suppose to sit back and do nothing? what would everybody else have done had they were in his shoes? people are quick to judge others for theyre actions!


  49. Soldiers are NOT serial killers. We live in FREEDOM only because of our AMERICAN SOLDIERS. Without them no one would be here freely speaking because if we did they would kill us if they didn’t like what we said.

  50. I LOVE serial killers. I love reading about them, hearing about them, watching movies based on them. Horror movies excite me, but to hear about a serial killer fascinates me the most. To sit and hear about the mind and the mental change happening to a person, causing them to act in the most vicious ways known to man is fascinating. How someone can be so out of their mind to kill, rape, eat or torture someone is captivating. Alothough their acts are wrong and inhumane, the question still remains is it only wrong because we say it is?

    1. I agree but I do believe it’s wrong because who are we to decide who’s to die and how? Same goes for the death penalty it’s not right buy I can’t change the way the government works nor people…

  51. What i have just read from the lovely Mariam,(if indeed Mariam is a woman) if not, i apologise for assuming Mariam is a females christian name. Anyway, what Mariam has written sums up my thoughts EXCATLY. I feel the same way Mariam, i experience a feeling of extreme excitment when i,m leafing through my quite vast collection of books,audio books,dvd,s etc on serial killers. And i have always asked myself the question of “if i could get away with it, would i myself indulge in MY fantasys? The answer is of course “i.d start tomorrow”. Thats what i find most interesting, all these men and women were acting out their fantasys, but all of them came to the point of crossing over the line which divides fantasy and reality and instead of just thinking about what it would be like, they went ahead and found out. And i admire that in a way. Know wot i mean Mariam?

  52. I’ve got to be honest and say I have never read so many retarded comments about our president. Are you people so ignorant to seriously believe that the president has enough power to direct operations in Iraq and Afganistan? If you’re americans you should really know the way our political system works. George Bush made some mistakes but if you truly don’t agree with what he said, get off your a??’ and run for president yourself and quit complaining. Or do over 26 years in the military like I did, then judge people. George Bush a serial killer? What a bunch of doushebags, get a grip you ignorant bunch of losers. Before you say such terrible things about a man who did the best job he could, get educated. Ask congress and the senate you pompous a??’ and then write another comment.

    1. Yes, I was surprised at that too. Maybe because Zodiac wasn’t caught and prosecuted? But then neither was Belle Sorenson Gunness but at least they have a picture of her…hmm.

  53. # Blood Moon Black Says:
    December 7th, 2008 at 7:40 am

    Don’t Forget about the Vagina Lip Beard Ed Gein Created . Im Working on one myself. =) Heres a riddle as well’ A man is six feet tall, is a clerk at a butcher shop, and wears size 11 shoes. What does he weigh?


  54. reading all these strogn and diverse opinions are very interesting. not many people have the guts to voice there opinion (*even if its on a website using a fake name )
    however i dont think people are being very clever by saying stupid thinks like luke hoffman, what is he trying to prove?
    these comments have sort of escaleted from talking about serial killers to a totally different subject (George Bush )which to tell you the truth has nothing to do with this website. maybe they should go to a george bushe website where there comments are do do with it its like going to a cat website and talking about the weather !!!!!!!!

    However i have got to say it is interesting hearing about it because i dont know many people who say what they are actually thinking.

  55. Yeah, come on, lets forget George f****** Bush and concentrate on the subject of serial killers. Much more interesting than king of the retards himself. Know wot i mean? And lets not forget Moses Sithole, forgive me if ive spelt wrong, i dont think i have. But he was one mean sob.

  56. I believe that something all these Serial killers want is attention and the only thing that triggers them would absolutely be looking for attention and they usually have troubled pasts. Ed Gene: His life story is also the base of the movie “The Chainsaw Massacre”

  57. “terrorist sympathizer”
    you think everyone in the middle east is a bad person?
    thats like saying all americans are like george bush.. he did kill A LOT of people, terrorist or not they were people. children and mothers. people just trying to live their lives. I cant help being born american, they cant help being born the way they are nor can people control OTHER peoples actions. Our country was not in debt what so ever before he became our leader. He is not a smart person. He was obviously a weak person also if Dick had to make choices for him, why shield these people when they need to take the blaim.

  58. Also about the manson murders it is said that Sharon Tates Unborn child was cut out of her stomach by one of the woman in the “family” and then cut the heart out of the baby and ate it. possible? or is this false.

  59. What is Parker on about? Jim Jones? Oh you mean the welsh geezer who sang “Its not unusual” and “Deliah” and “Sexbomb” and “the green green grass of home”. How many has he killed? He,s murdered a few songs i know that much!!! HA HA. I,m bloody funny i am when i get going. Know wot i mean? And your right, jim jones was a bit of a cult. Can i say the C word?

  60. @John Wayne Gacy
    … who has Charles manson killed though?
    Jim Jones convinced his cult to kill themselves together… leading to over 900 deaths.. most in cult history. Charles mansons family were responsible for deaths too. both men never killed anyone though. that im aware of.

  61. Uhmarent we forgetting about the zodiac killler? Sure, we know very few things about him but isn’t he a “famous” serial killer as well? I mean, he has his own movie too. Much like ed gein and other killers……

  62. This article was very well put together. I enjoyed reading this. As some people may think that all of these Serial Killers are sick individuals (which they are) i find them very fascinating. Also in a way i look up to them, not from a Serial Killer point of view but from a very self loyal point of view. I like to stay true to myself and if this how these men and woman were then atleast they were true to who they were. Now im NOT saying that that gives them the right to go kill people because thats what they wanted. It like hitler, he was a horrible person but had a ton of power. I also look up to him as to how he acquired all of his power. Now if he had used it for something good, he would have been extrodinary. But then again him and including all of these men and woman would have never been as adored or hated by society if they would have been good. Face it…America loves bad news and sadness. Take a look at the news and you’ll agree.

  63. John it seems to me that you have some issues that you need to tend to seeing as you think that george w. bush is a terrorist. I know he wasnt the greatest president we have ever had but its pretty pathetic that you think that killing terrorsts is a bad thing. Your a f****** idiot.

  64. First of all, I’d like to say that whoever that Mariam person is summed up my thoughts as well! I’ve always been fascinated by all sorts of psychological disorders… especially ones like sociopathic behavior because I simply can’t quite wrap my mind around how someone could be that way. Anyway, all in all I thought it was a very good and informative article – even though there probably are and probably always will be people that someone believes should have been mentioned.
    On that note, my second thought is that someone who should NOT be mentioned is ANY president of the United States of America. If someone attacks or hurts my home or anyone in it, they will suffer. Bottom line. This country is my home… and you’re damn right that a lesson needed to be taught after 9/11 – “Don’t f*ck with the US.” I’m not saying that I agree with every aspect and decision made about the war, but the country I live in, we VOTE for our President. We ELECT that person to make decisions FOR US in order to protect our country. If you don’t like or agree with that, move to another f*cking country. You do not stand here on American soil and rant your bull*h*t disrespectful opinions – which, by the way, you are only free to even offer up without getting your skull bashed in because of the brave men and women who are fighting this very second for that freedom. Believe what you want to believe, have a political debate all you want – lucky for you, you live in America and nobody can say that you can’t do that. But DO NOT disrespect your President by saying things like he should be on a list of serial killers. That is your President – like it or not.

    1. He’s far from a serial killer. He should not even be *mentioned* on a list about serial killers. He is a former President, not an effing psychopath, and I thank you for saying what needs to be said.

      Thank you for that. I like the people who defend this country. I don’t like George W. Bush (didn’t vote to elect him in the first place), but that’s not because of his actions about 9/11. He’s not a serial killer just because I don’t like him, and people shouldn’t say things like that.

  65. nicole i agree with you
    we do vote for someone to lead us…

    and people should not be saying he is a serial killer. he is doing what he thinks is in our best intrest…

    he is not serial killer… neither are the soldiers fighting.. (brother and boyfriend are stationed in Baghdad) they are fighting for us… they are not psycho killers. and it is a shame that so many people have died and had to leave their familys to go FIGHT FOR US but you have to think… what would our country be like with no defence and we never faught? what would have happened after 9 11 if we didnt fight?

    if there was another option that would be great but theres not so.. what can we do? vote for another prez and hope he fixes everything… we did and chances are.. he wont and things wont be fixed for a while. but soldiers are not crazy… they have familys and .. girlfriends maybe it would be nice if you thanked them.. instead of insulting them..

  66. Hi ya’ll…I need to admit that I perfectly understand Joe’s motivations, I myself am a victim of the israeli terrorism, and in five years of internet contact with americans, I have never seen any kind of sympathy of their part. I think you people should be using the internet in order to understand the muslim/western conflict [If any]…try to free your minds of all those pre-set ideas taught to you by biased and zionist medias. A last word before I leave: zionists don’t care about humanity, they only care about their own profit.

  67. i actually like the muslum culture.
    …. i just like people in general.
    i dont think the war was the best idea.
    i think its discusting and ignorent to be prejudice to anything.. because not every person can be the same.. the way bias people treat it… not all muslums are the same americans hispanics exc.. everyone has their flaws and everyone has things that they are liked for..

  68. I just want to know why every one thinks Bush is a terrorist… do you think every other president who went to war is a terrorist? Terrorists intend to terrorize… thats what these men (the serial killers and the al qaeda) did…. i would just like to know how you think bush terrorized people… the troops fight for our country and if you don’t enjoy your freedom then you can get the hell out of this country because i’m tired of people complaining about our troops, our president and most of all our country. Terrorists threatened our freedom… and you people are going to cry about our president deciding to act and refuse to be terrorized… because terrorists intend to terrorized, and we will not be terrorized, and though the troops die… they die with honor and dignity… for their country.

  69. Thank you dwight i couldnt agree more, are you going to say Honest Abe is a killer, George washington(he helped in a war not start it) exc.. what do you think of them?

  70. i really hate qouting comedians on political matters but Carlos Mencia who i hate the most, not because of his race but his garbage that comedy central lets him stream to millions of people, we didn’t have to REELECT him for presidency and like carlos said, “Did we hate him the during the first term YES, did he huge mistakes during his first term Yes ,did we do the dumb a*s thing of REELECTing him YES. People who didn’t vote don’t post anything because you had the right and chose not to use it. And john remember arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win you are still retarded. I too served 26 years in the Marines and served my time in Iraq so don’t start ranting on about how people don’t know shit because all they know is what they see on tv. I fought to make sure that my family and friends could post stuff to make sure you felt like a dumb a*s for saying George Bush is a terrorist.

  71. sorry correction in the name not john but joe. no beef towards john, btw i wouldn’t be proud of the fact that your named after a serial killer.

  72. You have one fact slightly wrong – Ed Gein is the inspiration for Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs, not Anthony Hopkins’ character, Dr. Lecter. Cool article otherwise, although these types of people disgust me, I am fascinated by what creates these monsters.

  73. Listen, I think everyone is missing the point on the whole George Bush thig…it wasn’t his fault that the terrorists decided to attack like they did. In fact, his dumba** father decided to draw first blood. Then when Clinton was in office, he had a chnace to put an end to that. He knew where the leader was and he knew that he could stop them, but he chose to be the pretty-boy president and sit around getting blown all day(thanks monica!you are a treat!). George BUsh had nothing to do but to react to the circumstances that he was faced with because of the decisions that were made before he came into office. Do i think his decisions were smart? NO. But i do not beleive that we can blame him for doing what he thought was best for his country. In the end, you have to remember how lonely it is to be the president and how much stress is put on you to keep the counrty safe. He cracked under pressure, and no one else can say they wouldn’t. So i think it is a little unfair to call him a serial killer, or a terrorist, or to even say that he supports it. Because at the end of the day, George Bush is just a man in an office trying to decide what is the best course of action for our country.

    But besides that,i beleive that this is an stupendous article and I enjoyed reading it.

  74. With all the comments on here and i have read all of them, there are a couple of people who actually make sense, jwgacy being one of them and what dylan has said has to be the best comment so far, manson for president, now he would certainly sort out those f—–g rag heads ,no messing with good old charlie boy, no more mister nice guy, you will all realise then all these SK,s are bloody smart individuals, get rid of the retard(well, they have now havent they?) and that quote manson for president is the best quote since my main man uttered those chilling words to the shivering scared young homosexual in his room “The Trick Is, To Have The Key” HA HA NUFF SAID.

  75. manson for president the best quote? no not really did you do any reading at all or is your ADD/ADHD that severe…. manson wanted to take down all black he wanted to start a race war and that is the last thing that we need to go back to. there is a reason we had a civil war and so many of our fathers died it was not to protect ourselves from another nation or from people trying to take away our freedoms to live, it was to protect the liberties of all american citizens… the whole manson for president comment get the award for dumbest statement on this site next up would have to be any bush is a terrorist statement or that he should be on the list with the rest of the serial killers… look up the definitions of what both mean bush does not fit into any of those categories if you find so twisted way to make his character fit into one then you might as well join al queda and believe the perversions they do to the holy coran … a book that teaches loving thy fellow man and never answering violence with more violence. learn the facts and become educated on a topic then open your mouth … and college student in there first year can tell you that you can’t write an argumentive research paper without getting all the facts and debunking the other sides rebuttle. i know this is an online topic and most people reading this sort of thing just use there computer for forums and porn but google in the scholarly section and get some straight facts then come back and share your knowledge with others that may not know as much as you do on a topic… its the only way we as americans can stop being ignorant and hated by the rest of the world… don’t blame your own short cummings and problems on the government or its officials they were elected by us it just so happens that the majority of americans are retarted so change that and change this country for the better “pay it forward’ as it were

  76. Sorry, but i have that reading disorder, you know the one, so anyway im replying to the comment made by “ginger —-” firstly im not american im german and secondly ginger —- why dont you lighten up a bit ya ——–. Ever heard of “——–“. Obviously not in your case. I stand by what i believe “MANSON FOR PRESIDENT”. Didnt he like ———————— parties amongst the Californian sand dunes? Well, that sounds mighty fine to me boy. So long ——. x

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  78. I cant believe these people! It’s awful what they’ve done o.o Especially Ed Gein, Belle Sorenson Gunness and Gary Ridgway. Awful, awful people =[ Most of these include rape (no shock there)

  79. john…. john john john….. maybe you should listen to your liberal whining lady friend…. you ARE giving liberals a bad name for bashing george bush…. you are no better than at terrorist only because you cant just be an american and support the head of the great nation we know as america….. i am a conservative and you can bet that i will support obama from now on because he is now the head honcho. stooping to your level and blogging slander about george bush is very childish. you can bet bottom dollar that one of the reasons that you have the freedom to bad mouth GWB is because of his ideals and his forethought to proceed into the fight against terrorism. you are truly a coward and i hope that all liberals are not as outlandish and far-fetched as you are.

  80. Adolf Hitler didnt kill ONE single person, he was just misunderstood thats all. A brilliant man who did it his way. Nobody slagged off frank sinatra when he did it his way.

    1. no body misunder stood him they knew what he wanted and he knew what he wanted he was a genius he singalhandedly almost wiped out a whole race and what do you think this world would be like if all these things have never happened in history and as for manson he could be a billioaire right now all he has to do is sign a few papers and sell his name there are so many followers for him that if they let him out it will all just happen again….

  81. @Bill: what kind of BS are you talking about!!!!! You re some Jew-hater!! They were murdered, slaughtered and tortured by ADOLF HITLER!!! They NEVER destroyed the world. They were blessed by the Almighty and still are being blessed and the world is jealous about that! The Jes are God´s peolple, don´t mess with th children of the Lord says the Holy Bible.
    @john wayne gacy: indeed Hitler didnot kill one single person, he was just like Charles Manson, he neither did not kill one single person and yet he is convicted as a murderer!! HITLER flew his a** from Germany that´s why he could not be convicted.
    You 2 guys go and study the history because you are talking real stupid things here!!

    1. You need to read up on your stuff, too, before you criticize. First off, this is about American serial killers- Hitler was German. And, second, Hitler was not a serial killer, he committed genocide. Just saying.

  82. @Bill: just like Charles Manson, Adolf was responsible for the murder of 6 million Jews, so he WAS a murderer!!! I said WAs because thank God the SOB is already burning in hell!!

    1. RE: Juliette”@Bill: just like Charles Manson, Adolf was responsible for the murder of 6 million Jews, so he WAS a murderer!!! I said WAs because thank God the SOB is already burning in hell!!

      What utter BS! Hitler is not burning in hell! How do you know? Because of Jewish and US propaganda to get the fools to support the war and to support the demonic Jews whole stole Palestinian land to build their demonic state of Israhell. Where is the proof that Hitler killed 6 million Jews. Fool , the figure six million has been the magical demonic number of the Jews for centuries.


      Actually, the 6,000,000 appeared even earlier in the 1910 Encyclopedia Britannica (V.25, 482b). “While there remain in Russia and Rumania over six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded….”. As we know, this number has ritualistic significance, so must be publicly repeated and acknowledged as much as possible.


      While again we musn’t stray too far, inquiring minds into the occult origins of particular ideas might study the ancient Hebrew/Semitic genuine holocaust human sacrifice god, Moloch, in whose fiery Jerusalem temple the allegedly wise Solomon allowed little babies to burn alive in ovens. Read the Jewish Old Testament; it’s all there. Does this give rise to a modern-day psychological neurosis, a compulsive obsession with alleged WWII mass burnings in ovens? Do Moloch, Ba’al and similar Semitic idols of evil, powerful ethnic atavistic images, fuel the fires and fantasies of irrational holohoax fundamentalist exterminationists? Is this gory ancient archetype lurking in their psyche?

      The symbolic 6,000,000 and the special term, holocaust, were carefully created, crafted and fabricated by those who follow undeniably Talmudic-Kabalistic doctrines and dogma. 6,000,000 has nothing at all to do with actual deaths, yet Holocaustianity has become a government sponsored publicly supported and enforced religion…


      The primary purpose of the 6,000,000 holo-myths is deceptive, evil and occult. It is an ongoing magical working of the Dark Forces. The Elders of Zion (JEWS) cast Protocols-like spells to deceive the goyim, causing them to ostentatiously and obligingly revere the Chosen Ones – and support them with money. This clever holo/hoax/hex works ever so well on the common people, especially the self-deceived so-called Judeo-Christians, thus we cannot deny its magic power.

      Surely if the Bible says the Jews ( pharisees) are the enemy of God and the Bible does prove that to be so then how would Hitler burn in hell for doing Gods work? Truth is the holocaust is a hoax and not one thread has been proven to this day. In fact it has been proven to be false time and again and only unlearned fools parrot the six million myth. Even God in the bible warned us to never believe anything that comes from the mouth of a Jew in Titus. Yet God did not believe them or trust then and you do? And you have the nerve to blaspheme God in the flesh who was Jesus the Christ and call him a Jew which the word of God says we should never believe and lies come form their mouths continually. Time to get out of your shell of ignorance and learn the truth and not let these demons destroy the truth!

  83. @John wayne gacy: what a sick mind you must have to even compare a great singer like Frank sinatra with a he-devil like Adolf Hitler. Shame on you. Frank will turn around in his grave if he was able to read this garbage of yours!

  84. Well, I just want you people to pay your attention on the issue which is popular every where in thr world that Muslims are terrorists. If you come to know this report then you will realize that no one have ever made an issue of these american serial killers. Why didn’t the call terrorists? yes, because they are not Muslims so we have come to know that there is a lobby behind this issue that Muslims are terrorists and they want to vanish Muslims out from this world.

  85. Juliette, ever heard of wrongful imprisonment, good old charlie might of been convicted of murder, that doesnt mean he did it. Thousands of people are put away for something they aint done. Dodgy police, Dodgy Judges all taking back handers. The media was fed so much bs on quiet law abiding mr manson that it was a clear cut case of guilty before proven innocent. As for Adolf, what would they of charged him with? upsetting a few inferior jews maybe or excessive use of germanys main gas outlets perhaps, get things into perspective julieann before you get on here and start defending mr and mrs Goldsteinburg.

  86. @John wayne: go study the history. You are writing nonsense. People are laughing at you. I am not going to argue with you no more about this subject. You are far below my level of intellience.

    1. Juliette are you being serious? People are not laughing at John for being correct about Adolf Hitler. He is perhaps one of the most wonderful statesmen the world has ever seen. He took post WW1 Germany from the economic, social, and political shambles it was left in. Additionally he was able to restore German pride in the people. This is an undeniable point that many history scholars will tell you. They go further to say that if Adolf Hitler would have died in 1938 he would have been remembered as a wonderful statesmen comparable to Franklin D. Roosevelt. Furthermore if you were truly intelligent and so passionate you would have read his works in Mein Kampf (the whole thing). Not to agree with him, but to attempt to see what his thoughts and reasons for his campaigns were. The police that investigate and interrogate murderers like Ted Bundy don’t agree with their actions. They simply are attempting to obtain reasons for the horrendous actions taken. Hitler was attempting to create a Aryan state for Aryan people. The same might I point out that Israel is trying to do for the Jewish people. Why are they so intolerant of the Arab Palestinians? Is that a race related subject or a political one? The methods used by German Officers mainly his generals were disgusting, but blaming him is like blaming Abu-Graib directly on George W. Bush. You should go acquire a little more education and learn some understanding of others. The Hebrew tribes are not the only ones that exist and desire a place to reside. There are plenty of our ancestors that searched for a place to call our own. That’s what we have found in America and that’s why we defend it so readily. Remember that history has always been written by the winners, especially in the past prior to the post-industrial revolution when communication became so readily available to individuals. I am not advocating in favor of one way or another in any of this. All I’m saying is that before you get on some soap box about being chosen by God. Try to act with a little grace for those of us that weren’t “chosen”. In my culture that’s what I-N-T-E-L-L-I-G-E-N-C-E does for a person. It teaches them the importance of “spell check”. Also whoever the ignorant liberal was that was degrading President Bush about the war. I’m glad those other guys put you in your place, because you’re ignorant and your ideas should never be shared with other human beings. Join Juliette in a debut to post-secondary education. As for these sick bastards on the page above. They were all criminals and if you want to prosecute Manson you would have to compare him to Jim Jones in Africa or David Koresh in Waco, TX. It places the judicial system in a very precarious situation and that’s why charisma is such a dangerous attribute when possessed by people with ill intentions.

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  88. Firstly juliette let me explain who i am,(apart from the person who set out to wind you up and suceeded) I am jwgacy as you know, i am also Chief Advisor to the British Forensics Institute of Forensic Medicine and Digital Evidence here in London. I am a Foresic scientist and also have phd.s in Palynology, Toxicology and Behaviour Studies of the mind of class A-1st Serial Killers. So i know what im talking about thankyou. You shouldnt of let me wind you in and land you like that, it wasnt that much of a challenge. Still, life goes on.

  89. Listen mr. john wayne, I do not care who you are, you are writing such stupid things that I know, despite of all your titles, that you are far below my level of intelligence. Again, go and study history of WWII.

  90. John, you can have all the titles in the world, I stand far above you, that is one thing I know for sure. Actually I feel pity for you, I´m sorry…..

  91. I study the minds of Crazed Serial killers, why would i want to study something that happened years ago darling, that has past, the reason i am on here in the first place is because it is an article right up my street. As for you being stood above me you are getting illusions which first started Ian Brady off thinking he was better than other people he didnt know. So be careful my dear.

  92. John wayne, you should study WWII because you wrote stupidity. I do not know you Mister but from those stupid things you wrote in former comments, I can see that you you are not so smart. I don´t have to be careful. I said to you what I had to say. Sorry, but I don´t wish to continue arguing with you. You are not interesting to me.

  93. Manson did Not kill Sharon tate or anyone else as far as anyone know.
    He is not a seriall killer – do some reading before you post stuff like this.

  94. No, Manson is the saint himself!!!
    Come on give me a break!!! He was the BRAIN behind all these murders, that´s the same thing as being a murderer!! Just look at his eyes, he is the devil himself in person.

  95. @Juliette: I don’t hate all jews but those who have caused world wars, who control the media, who control the food and medicine, the banking system, who own the UN and the world bank, Federal reserve and the Bank of England and most important of all who control the United States of America. It is because of the Jews and Jewish Policies that Americans are suffering today. America and Americans are being hated in the world because Jews are playing at the back end and forcing Americans to go for wars, pay taxes and interests. It’s high time that Americans should kick these guys out!

    They were murdered and slaughtered and so they are murdering and slaughtering in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine. On top of that, they haven’t yet stopped, they can’t stop the dirty game of causing unrest and gathering the wealth of the world.

    As for Jews being the chosen and blessed people.. Why were the chosen people not granted any land on earth? Finally they had to snatch a land by causing the two world wars… For the information of everyone out here.. Israel is the only country in the world which doesn’t have a line of control or border because it keeps on increasing as the brutal israeli forces go deep in palestine but nobody ever says anything because Jews control everything.

    You are talking about the Jews being chosen people and quoting Bible? That’s sick! You need to do some research on what you are saying.. Here are a couple of reads I would suggest:

    The International Jew
    The protocols of the learned elders of zion

    Furthermore, for the chosen people, I have some video links exposing the truth about Jews.

    1. Ditto, for once someone who is in the know. Need more people like you who have no “Fear of the Jews” as written in the Bible. The only reason they do what they do is because to many people are weak and fear the Jew. Want peace in the world? Paradise on earth, expose the Jew for what he is. I say this in a Biblical text because this is what the Bible is really about, exposing Gods enemies and the enemies of Gods real people.

  96. @Juliette: You can’t argue with me because you don’t have anything to argue and so you presented me a bogus website.

    Let’s concentrate on this topic of SK’s.

    Great read!

  97. I have a lot to argue, but don´t you think to argue about the Jews and Arabs in this way is a little silly? One never can write everything down. So that´s why I told you I do´t want t argue about this middle east thing. And that video you saw is not bogus, but I can understand, people don´t like to know the truth, sometimes the truth hurts.

  98. Yeah the candy man. What about david ray, he was a mean son of a gun was he not? I saw a clip with that woman who helped him and she was asked “being a woman yourself how did you feel when david ray was torturing them?” She said “nothing really, it wasnt as if he was beating them to a pulp and there wasnt ant blood or anything”” I thought to myself “she has got a fair point there, not as if he was cutting their tits off or slicing them open jack the ripper style. Know wot i mean?

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  100. @Bill: the thruth is written in the holy Bible, the King James version, the one and only reliable bible. Start reading the Bible and you will find out the truth about this whole Middle East thing with the Jews. Finito!!

    1. Right Juliette the truth is in the Bible. Not one time does God or any of the angels of heaven call the Jews the chosen or the chosen Jews, Not once again do the angels or God call Jesus a Jew. The word “Jew” is a 1700 English inventive word given to the Kharzarres, so therefore it could have never been in any bible unless inserted by the many Jewish translators who have perverted the word of God for their gain.

      In Hebrew there was no “J” or “J” equivalent in the language. The “J” was invented by the French in the 1600’s and given to America to use. That is the only time the “J” was ever used in history and thusly began the series of “J” words.
      For instance In Hebrew the word “ISSAC” is pronounced “SACC” for they never pronounced the “I”. Sacc had a son and at that time it was common to call the child by the fathers name plus the word “SON” ie, Saccs Son of Saccson. Thusly the Saccsons were born. The JEws perverted the word in the 1600’s referring to Gods chosen tribe the Saccsons to the perverted word SAXONS which was devised to throw true Israel off as to whom they really are. Thusly the Jews could now steal the heritage of the chosen ones the Saxons. The real Biblical term is Saccsons not Saxons.

      1Thes :2:14 “For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they [have] of the Jews:

      Here the Bible states that many have suffered because of the Jews

      2:15 Who (JEWS) killed the Lord Jesus, and the prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:

      This verse of the KJV says the JEWs killed the prophets and Jesus the Christ. They are contrary to all men! Does this mean they are not men as described in Genesis of the Bible ? Yes it does , they , according to the bible do not fall into the man scheme of Gods word in the bible. And lastly the Bible says the “JEWS” please not God. How can they be chosen and not please God? God is exposing them while they teach you the opposite!
      Titus 1:10
      For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
      OF the Jews
      1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

      1:12 One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their ( JEWS) own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

      1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them (JEWS) sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

      1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, who pervert the truth.

      Here we see that Gods word tells us that Jews are cretins and liars always who are in everything only for filthy lucre (moneys ) sake. NOt to mention that the Bible states they are “EVIL BEAST” which therfore wholds the truth that they are not MEN as in the creation of man in the Bible.

      The bible again tells us non Jews to rebuke then SHARPLY and to never give heed to anything that comes from their mouths because they are full of “FABLES” is lies, untruths such as the Holocaust hoax.And this same bible verse tells us that the Jews pervert the truth! What is the truth but the bible? Thusly God is telling us that they pervert Gods truth and word.

      John states: Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

      Here God is telling the Jews who are about to crucify him what He feels about them. Note also that Jesus makes it perfectly clear that NONE of His servants were present during the murder of Jesus then He also makes it perfectly clear that Jesus Himself is not of the Jews nor they of Him.

      Jesus is actually telling the Jews that if His servants were present they would have killed every last Jew to save Jesus. Are you a servant of Jesus? Proof that no Romans were present and this is merely another addition the Jews put into our Bibles . remember that Jesus said the Jews would pervert the truth.

      Note also that Jesus makes it very clear that He was delivered unto the Jews for crucifixtion… none else! lastly God makes the final statement which should tell all men the truth That is that he is not of the Jew nor they of him, When God ( Jesus is God in the flesh) makes the statement to the Jews that his kingdom is not from “Hence.” It means that He is not Jew nor is the Jew of Him . The word “hence means not the source of or not coming from or that neither are they from the source which is God. look up the word!

      In John 8:21 Jesus said unto the Jews “Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.

      Here He is stating that He is going to heaven and the Jews can NEVER go there……not ever!

      Then Jesus says ” And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

      Ye are from beneath means Hell!!Not of God nor heaven!

      They (Jews) answered him, We be Abraham’s seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

      And Jesus answered: :I know that ye say ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

      Here Jesus makes it clear that they say they are Abraham’s seed but He rebukes them in their lie knowing that they are not the seed of Abraham. Jesus makes it clear to all that the Jews are saying this but makes it clear He knows it is not truth.

      Jesus to the Jews: I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

      If God is not their father then who is? Satan of course!

      They (JEWS) answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

      Again Jesus rebukes the lie that the Jews are of Abraham.He said IF YOU WERE ABRAHAM’S CHILDREN meaning even Jesus knew they were not!

      Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.

      Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

      Jesus is referring to the Jews as not of GOD. Telling them they do the works of their father satan.

      And finally Jesus rebukes them fully and state who they really are in John 8:44

      “Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

      Your Father the Devil is literal not symbolic as the Jew would have you believe. No demon can enter heaven and Jesus said earlier that no Jew can enter heaven. Thusly Jews are the enemy of God and all mankind. Historically they are the anti-Christ which never is intended to be a singular meaning but to mean many such as an entire race……, the Jew!

      I could go on for thousands of pages in this proof but now it is time for you to seek truth!

      1. It’s funny cause you guys are talking about the bible on a page of serial killers.
        Seriously. I don’t think half the people on this page care.

      2. This was so stupid that I could hardly read past the first few lines, and I’m honestly not certain as to why I’m responding, but here goes:

        Yes, you’re right, there is no word for “Jew” in any of the bibles. Every Jewish person educated in their history knows as much, as do most well-educated Christians, atheists, or any other individuals who have an interest in biblical history. The bible was not written with regards to “the Jews,” the majority of the stories concern the “Israelities,” those deemed as such for when one of the Judeo-Christian religions’ “forefathers” was renamed “Israel,” or “Yisrael” in Hebrew, meaning having fear and awe of God. Later, there were “twelve tribes of Israel,” with “Yehuda” being one of them, and those who belonged to Yehuda were known as “Yehudim,” which is simply the plural. It is from “Yehuda” that the modern term “Jew” has arrived, as supposedly the only tribe that was not “lost” in the Roman diaspora was the tribe of Yehuda.

        (To be most archaeologically accurate, Israelites are largely considered no different than Canaanites until after the fall of the neo-Assyrian empire and the weakening of Egypt’s economic and trade power over the region – later there was a division between the Israelites and the Phoenicians; later than that, the Punic peoples, each descending from the Canaanites. This is opposed to the traditional story read in the bible about the Israelites escaping Egypt and the Canaanites being idolatrous. At least, this is what we know from old records kept in languages ranging from Egyptian to Ugaritic, various Aramaic dialects and so forth). You cannot separate the ontology of “Jew” from the ontology of “religion” as a concept and practice in Western history – the term “Jew” evolved along with evolving notions of religion. Thus, until after Napoleon in Europe, “Jews” were considered officially to be a separate nation living in exile within European domains, but never allowed to become citizens. Even if they converted, you can read in old Inquisition records statements such as, “My name is Abraham, I was born in Lisbon, am of the Hebrew Nation, and of the Catholic faith.” Nationality, religion and citizenship were very different notions than they are in the post-Napoleonic world, as Napoleon began the tradition of allowing “people of the Hebrew” nation to become part of the nation in which they were born, so long as they only considered their other designation a “religion” but otherwise espoused allegiance to their home country and followed that country’s laws.

        Thus, I don’t see why you’re presenting this as though it’s some sort of novel discovery that will discredit “the Jews.” This is basic history that you’re trying to warp as a means of discrediting a people’s historical and cultural background, let alone religious faith. Likewise, the whole “letter J” thing is just…stupid. Of course there is no J in Hebrew, there was no J in any ancient Semitic language. However, “J” was not ‘”invented by the French and given to America,” or however, you worded it. The “J” sound has existed in countless geographies and time periods – for example, it’s an extremely common consonant in Sanskrit, both ancient and classical Sanskrit. Likewise, it was a Germanic and Slavic consonant as well, and later it entered into romance languages. The letters “I,” “Y,” and “J,” have often changed pronunciation throughout Western linguistic history and have often been used interchangeably or for transliteration purposes. There’s still no “J” in modern Hebrew, and in English, we translate the Hebrew words of “Yerushaliyim” to be “Jerusalem,” and “Yisrael” to be “Israel.”

        Finally, Isaac is NOT prounced Saac in Hebrew, it’s pronounced “Yitschaak,” with a guttoral “ch” noise, and the “Y” is definitely pronounced. Again, it’s just a matter of linguistics as to how the J/Y/I is pronounced or differentiated.

        And…the rest of your post doesn’t warrant any sort of argumentation, it’s just stupid. Not that your attempt at pseudo-historical, pseudo-linguistic propaganda was not stupid, but that was information that some people may actually not know and possibly take your word for, whereas the rest of your post is some sort of silly biblical-textual-folkloric argument to justify bigotry. Anyone with half a brain can see through that without needing any sort of historical background information, as it’s not based on anything tangible, contextual or falsifiable.

        Here’s just a few citations so you can check yourself:

        Albright, W. F. (1975) Chapter 33: Syria, the Philistines and Phoenicia. Pp. 507–536 in I.E.S. Edwards et al. The Cambridge Ancient History. Third Edition. Cambridge: University Press.

        Astour, M.C. (1965) The Origin of the Terms “Canaan,” “Phoenician,” and “Purple.” Journal of Near Eastern Studies 24:346-50.

        Dever, W.G. (2001) What Did The Biblical Writers Know, And When Did They Know It? What Archaeology Can Tell Us About the Reality of Ancient Israel. William B. Eerdmans Pub.

        Dever, W.G. (2003) Who Were the Early Israelites, And Where Did They Come From?
        William B. Eerdmans Pub.

        Finkelstein, I. (2006) David and Solomon: In Search of the Bible’s Sacred Kings and the Roots of the Western Tradition. Free Press.

        Jigoulov, V. (2007) The Phoenician City-states of Tyre and Sidon in Ancient Jewish Texts. Of Diachrony and Ideology. Scandinavian Journal Of The Old Testament 21.1: 73-105.

        Noll, K. L. (2007) Is the Book of Kings Deuteronomistic? And Is It a History? Scandinavian Journal of the Old Testament 21.1: 49-72.

        Redford, D.B.(1992) Egypt, Canaan, and Israel in Ancient Times. Princeton University Press.

        Stern, E. (2001) Archaeology of the Land of the Bible, vol. II: The Assyrian, Babylonian
        and Persian Periods 732 – 332 BCE. New York: Anchor Bible Series. [n.b. ch. 4].

        Eds. and trans. Richard L. Kagan and Abigail Dyer. (2004) Inquisitorial Inquiries: Brief Lives of Secret Jews and Other Heretics. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press.

    2. you mean the bible that was written by man who supposedly “heard the words from god himself”
      give me a break… when you can prove that god really does exist then maybe we will believe you, until then, enjoy your bedtime stories cause thats all the bible is!

  101. Umm..for everyone that’s asking about serial killers from other countries, read the article of the article.. it’s called AMERICA’S famous serial killers…. that is all! ^_^

    BTW! Good article! ^-^ Kept my interest and is, most likely, going to be quoted in my essay for English! =D

  102. Oh yeah I totally forgot that the Bible is 100% true. I wonder when they discovered that out, because last time I knew maybe some of it was proven me the Bible is like a Harry Potter’s a good read and has good morals..but at the end of the day, it’s all fairy tale..good god Juliette.

  103. You liberal m****s don’t have any idea. what you are talkng about. We are in a war against people who murder civilians and spread terror. 94% of civilian casualties in the war are due to car bombs and suicide bombers. America and Bush are not to blame for the actions of al’quida or other various islamic extremists. all you people do is watch msnbc 24/7. you do no research, none whatsoever.

  104. oh and Bill. the jews do not control the banking system, the media or any of the other things you mentioned. you have no REAL evidence for any of this. The jews are a religious minority in america. they are one of the least influential groups of people in europe or the US. you are just too brainwashed to see past the palestinian propaganda and lies to see reality. It is so sad that people can be so backward.

    1. Oh they don’t? you are either a real fool or a very ignorant person. Perhaps you should read for truth a little more and get to know your countries history a little better. It is time to end the era of the Jew in America once and for all. And only truth and knowledge can do that.

      How Jews Control America

      Federal Reserve Jews Control America

      Zionist control of the media: Who rules America?

      Who Really
      Controls America?……JEWS

      Jewish Media control in America

      News from a Jew- Jews Who control America.

      And the Best:

      “The JEWS who Run Bush/ Obama and the USA”

      JEWS CONTROL AMERICA. This is because the Jews own the Federal Reserve Bank. It’s not “federal” at all. It’s privately owned. By Jews!The money that President George Bush borrows in the billions of $$$ at interest comes from the Jewish money lenders of the Federal Reserve Bank. They look so veryprofessional & so legit don’t they? But don’t fall for it for they are bandits. For how does President George Bush pay for these loans at Jewish high interest hmm? By taxing American Gentiles up the gazoo!Presidential candidate Ron Paul says that we don’t have to borrow from the Federal Reserve Bank but can print our own $$$ at no interest. Ron Paul says that this is ourConstitutional right. But Jews don’t care about our Constitutional rights. All that Jews care about is what serves their own interests

  105. bill, let me educate you. Palestine is not a country. It never was. There is no such place on a map and there never has been. After world war 1 The ottoman empire was toppled than the land was taken under occupation by the UN until a new government could be established. During this time the zionist movement was going on and The jew were trying to reclaim land that was theirs thousands of years ealier (long before the “palestinians” and muslims. By the end of world war 2, tens of thousands of jews were displaced and were drawn to their homeland, thus the zionist movement grew. The arabs had failed over the last 3 decades to form a government of their own but the jews were ready to form a nation. Winston Churchill and the UN decided to allow the jews to form their own nation and to be fair they allowed the arabs to form their own as well (the land was divided equally). in 1947 when israel was founded immediatly there was an invasion by their neighboring arab country jordan. it was not alone. Seria iran and suadia arbia joined the coalition to crush israel. while this is happening thousands of jews in arab countries were beaten, murdered and forced out of their homes. Israel defended itself and won in the end suffering the loss of 10% of their population. in order to keep the insurgents under control they planned to occupy the neighboring countries of gaza and jordan. now what do these countries do? do they cooperate? Do they cease attacks on israeli civilians? NO. they continued to attack israel, and they still do today. israel suffers constant attacks from the PLO even after they cease occupations of these countries. Israel is the only victim. “palestine” is only a organization of anti-semetic arabs who cannot tolerate the existence of a jewish state. This fight is not about occupation. they attacked israel long before that. This is not about stolen land. The land was never theirs. this is not about liberation. he only reason why israel is in these countries is for self defense. This fight is about the erradication of the jews from the middle east. The palestinians will do or say anything to get the west to support them. They will lie to you and make you beleive they are the victim, when in reality israel is only defending itself. The liberal media has already joined their side. the jews dont control the media. if they did you would actually see the israeli schools that were bombed in december. you would see hamas using children as human shields. you would see the israeli soldiers using the worlds most advanced technology to avoid civillian casualties. you would see hamas hiding in schools to protect themselves. you would see the arab leaders announcing their support for hamas. you would see the people of gaza holding rallies for hamas. you would see hamas and the PLO declaring their primary goal. the destruction of israel and everyone in it.

    1. Wrong again! The myth that there was never a Palestine is nothing more than Jewish propaganda and you bought it hook line and sinker…..unless your a Jew of course. Fact is Palestine has been long before the Jews arrived and murdered the occupants and stole their land. Fact is the Jewish controlled media is responsible for the myth that there never was a Palestine. Truth is there was and always will be despite the terrorist Jews of Israhell.

      Map of ancient Palestine at the time of Christ

      ountry name: Palestine
      Total Area: 2,436 sq mi (6,309 sq km), broken down as follows: West Bank: 2,270 sq mi (5,879 sq km); East Jerusalem, 27 sq mi (70 sq km); Gaza Strip: 139 sq mi (360 sq km)
      Population: 6.65 million (2007 est.), broken down as follows: West Bank, 2.5 million; Gaza Strip, 1.4 million; Syria, 442,000; Lebanon, 408,000; Jordan, 1.9 million. The total population of Palestinians, including worldwide migrants, is around 10 million.
      Median age: 16.7
      Ethnic Groups: Palestinians are predominantly Arab

      Ancient History of Palestine

      From Encyclopedia Britannica:Ancient Palestine

      “In 1902, Sir James Frazer, in his book The Golden Bough, which argued his thesis about the origins of religion, speculated that the majority of Palestinian Arabs are descendants of the ancient Jebusites and Canaanites:

      “The Arabic-speaking peasants of Palestine are the progeny of the tribes which settled in the country before the Israelite invasion. They are still adhering to the land. They never left it and were never uprooted from it.”

      According to Scholch, the population of Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews

      Figures from Ben-Arieh, in Scholch 1985, p. 388.

      According to Ottoman statistics studied by Justin McCarthy, the population of Palestine in the early 19th century was 350,000, in 1860 it was 411,000 and in 1900 Palestine had a population of about 600,000 of which 94% were Arabs. In 1914 Palestine had a population of 657,000 Muslim Arabs, 81,000 Christian Arabs, and 59,000 Jews.

      Alphonse de Lamartine visited Palestine in 1835:

      Mark Twain visited Palestine in 1867 and wrote in Innocents Abroad:

      *and yet fools parrot the lying Jews and say there never was a Palestine, but Mark Twain new and even visited Palestine.

      In 1898, German Kaiser Wilhelm II also visited Palestine. He was appalled at the condition of the country. The Ottomans had stripped the forests for lumber and firewood. The Palestinian Arabs had let an old Roman aqueduct fall into ruin. The ultimate ecological curse was the ubiquitous herds of black goats. For nearly 2,000 years after the dispersion of the Jews, Arabs had allowed their goats to graze unfenced across Palestine. They had eaten the grass down to its roots, and the topsoil had eroded and blown away. The biblical land of milk and honey had become a dust bowl.

      In 1896, the population of Jerusalem reaches 45,300: 28,000 Jews; 8,700 Christian Arabs/Europeans; and 8,600 Moslem Arabs.

      In 1920, the League of Nations “Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine states that there were 700,000 people living in Palestine.

      By 1948, the population had risen to 1,900,000, of whom 68% were Arabs, and 32% were Jews (UNSCOP report, including bedouin).

      In 1902, Sir James Frazer, in his book The Golden Bough, which argued his thesis about the origins of religion, speculated that the majority of Palestinian Arabs are descendants of the ancient Jebusites and Canaanites:

      *No Palestine? Hmmmmm yet History is full of Palestine’s history and visitors whom have described it by name……. Palestine!

      “The Arabic-speaking peasants of Palestine are the progeny of the tribes which settled in the country before the Israelite invasion. They are still adhering to the land. They never left it and were never uprooted from it.”

      Stop believing the filthy Israli Propaganda which is being used to steal Palestine from its inhabitants and murder them all so greedy Terrorist Israel can own the land and the natural gas deposits on the land. Ther always has been a Palestine. Did you not pay attention in school while now they try to steal history from you?

  106. @TopCity: I´m not going to argue with you about the Holy Bible, if you think it is like a Harry Potter book, go ahead. You have a free will to believe and choose whatever you like. But what if you die and you find out there IS a God? Than it would be too late for you my friend. It´s better to die and believe there is a God, than to die thinking and believing there is NO God and find out after dying that there IS really a God.

  107. aren’t we forgetting one thing? a serial killer has no religion, no nationality, no cause…no sense of right or wrong…he lives in a world created not by God or devil or the big bang theory…he lives in a world created by his own fevered brain…why would we confuse between him/her and something bigger like the politics of nation or religion…

  108. Ok joe, its people like U that I cant help but punch in the face. I cant stand morons that don’t recognize that thousands of Americans died on 9/11. why don’t u say we shouldn’t of went to the families of 9/11 victims? I have a good friend who has several family members who were supposed to be at the trade center on 9/11 but were given off those days, and were spared by God. and the real retards are those genocidal terrorists in the taliban and al quada. And congress approved the war, the president cant just send troops to a foreign country. Those friggin retards over there were killing their own people and thousands of kurds. And u should be against war, its been said by a general, “any soldier worth his salt should be against war.” But some things are worth fighting for, LIKE THE LIVES OF YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS, if u forgot they were in danger of terrorists. But im glad I didn’t have to serve with u, because morons like shouldn’t be given a gun. Because those bullets were fired in the name of every person that died in the 9/11 attacks by al quada.

    1. Duh no attacks were made by “Al Qaida” . That is the correct spelling and if you are going to be so convinced in something so fake you should at least learn how to spell it.

      Fact is Al Qaida is a propaganda tool and is also a fecal slur often made by Israeli Mossad.

      Fact:The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the ‘devil’ only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . .” — Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook

      “Ana raicha Al Qaeda” is colloquial for “I’m going to the toilet”. A very common and widespread use of the word “Al-Qaeda” in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb “Qa’ada” which mean “to sit”, pertinently, on the “Toilet Bowl”. In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: “Al-Qaeda” also called the “Hamam Franji” or foreign toilet, and “Hamam Arabi” or “Arab toilet” which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty used by small children is called “Ma Qa’adia” or “Little Qaeda”.

      So, if you were forming a terrorist group, would you call yourself, “The Toilet”? ”


      IF we are to be angry at those who committed 911 then we should be attacking the terrorist state of Israel.

      The Five Dancing Israelis
      Arrested On 9-11

      Israel and 9/11

      All 9/11 Airports Serviced by One Israeli Owned Company

      Odigo Workers Received Warning of 9/11 Attacks

      The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11

      Americans Probing Reports of Israeli Espionage

      U.S. Arrests of Israelis a Mystery

      Urban Moving Systems and Detained Israelis

      FBI Turning Over Stones With Israelis Underneath

      Hundreds of Mossad Agents Caught Running Wild in America!

      FBI Fury As Men With Nuke Plans, Valid Israeli Passports Escape

      The Israeli Spy Ring

      Two Israelis arrested with bombs in the Mexican Congress


      911 Conspiracy, Bin Lauden World Trade Center Attack. Inside Job? Military used by Neo-cons?

      Cell Phone Call 911 Fake. Voice Morphing Technology Used. Altitude too high

      CGI Planes – Fake Planes -WTC -PlaneHuggers -Did real planes strike the WTC?


      Pentagon 911 Crash. A Boeing 757 Did Not Strike The Pentagon

      Pentagon 911 Attack. No Plane hit the pentagon. No Video shows a plane. Nose of Skywarrior Visible

      911 Conspiracy, Bin Lauden World Trade Center Attack. Inside Job? Military used by Neo-cons?

      911 Lies & US Government Cover-Up, What Evidence Is There of Conspiracy?

      How to Fake a Kamikaze Act on a Sky

      911 Timeline Discrepancies


      Former CIA Official -Head of ‘Star Wars’ Program Say Cheney #1 Suspect in 911

      Why don

      World Trade Center Demolition -Explosives, not jet-fuel imploded the towers

  109. I have been trying to learn about these types of people out of interest, the only thing I don’t understand is why it is always reported of a default childhood or neighbours animals?,

    they are the way they are or due to a considerable amount of bad luck they must get frustrated and fed up living the way common people do in our suits our politics and everything that goes with it, maybe.. just saying. they see things for what they realy are? we are all so jaded by everydays society that they lash out in the most incredible violence, yes a cry for help but we know that modern tried of medical history has always failed. many of these people are still behind bars awaiting the chair or leathal injection, but how come so many are still there? why is it so many before them have already gone why are they still here?? how come it takes so long for these originals to be taken care of costing millions a year to keep locked up?

  110. oh and one more thing, George W. Bush, anyone who has the power to send military forces to a country, take away lives with nothing but a pen stroke? SHOULD be considered a serial killer as many of thousands of inocent people died for causes they did not understand. yes we know that apparently serial killers work with blue print and such but like everyday people, whos to say they can’t change the way they do things?? in a posision of power? who better to become a serial killer, why do it yourself when you can command others to do it for you? Manson did for alot of the time unles he had to or wanted to get involved.

  111. OMG! You have seriously been at this for what 2 months now? Juilette, come on from the comments you’ve left I can tell you are a very dependent, emotional, strong woman but F@@K give everyone a break!! People come on here to read about the CRAZY @** monsters that killed, raped, mutilated innocent people not to come on her a go on and on and on about the war in Iraq! DO YOU SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ON HERE?? You say all this stuff about how bad they are CHILDREN GET KILLED everyday over there. FOR JOHN:::: GO F**K yourself do you even get what ur talking about? Your saying we should all vote and elect a mad man? someone who brainwashed “his family” and had them kill yeah thats JUST WHAT WE NEED!!! Yet another George W Bush.


  112. @Chrtistine: I give no one a break. I say what I hav to say because the ones I replied to just wrote down BS!!! They must know history before they talk nonsence. And don´t write down things about me like if you know me ok?? Keep your personal comments over me to yourself for you don´t know me at all. So don´t come with this crap from dependent, emotional strong woman business!!! And what the F… are you doing here on the internet?? You are telling us not to fight, so what do you call your filthy language??? I think YOU better get a flippin´f… life!!!!

  113. I came to this site to read some things about some of the most f****d up people in history. Then I started to read all the comments and I thought I just had to give my insight. I am a Canadian with a European background and I just love all the Americans who say we did not choose to go to war. And I know most of you are thinking, what does a Canadian know about America. For one most of our channels and media is based on American media and for us up here in the North we like to venture out of our box and learn about the rest of the world which surrounds us.

    First off war is what it is, and there will be many casualties. It is not pretty and it will never be and that is why it is dreaded. Those soldiers who do not believe in a war they are going to should stand up and maybe withdraw from the military. I do believe they are not sending children off to war who can’t decide for themselves. But I guess that is why they say the military is full of jarheads, mindless tools who do as they are told and do not question. I myself have lost and I do feel sad for those who never make it home but I will not cry and blame the government for their death. I will praise these soldiers for going off to fight for that was their decision.

    I also love hearing how Americans just love to blame their favourite president and say he is a terrorist. If I am not mistaken Iraq was invaded before Bush was re-elected for president. If so many people were against this war why was he ever re-elected? And why was this war left to go on for so long? As for Bush being a terrorist I think that is just hilarious. Bush isn’t the one pulling the trigger and deciding on who is innocent. For any war crimes committed those in the military who committ these acts should be held accountable. We entrust our brothers, fathers, sisters and whoever else to make morale decisions when they are out there fighting for their lives. However in every war there are war crimes committed and if you do not believe this then you truly are a moron. As I said I have a european background and in the early 90’s my country went to war. During this war thousands were killed and thousands were deported. Now many years after the war one of our Generals is being tried for war crimes. To us, this man is a hero and is celebrated for winning the war and we do not consider him a terrorist. I do not doubt that war crimes were committed, but I know for a fact that it was committed on both halves as many of my family members were killed. In war it is either you or them, it’s not pretty but it is the truth.

    The truth is we live in a democracy and in a democracy we are given the right to stand up and be heard for ourselves. Now usually up here when we don’t like the guy running our country we try to get his a*s out of parliament. We are suppose to elect officials who best represent us as a country. Now I know everyone did not vote for Bush, but I also never saw any huge protests in the US as in other places. Yeah you had a couple of thousand people here and there like in Chicago and San Fransico but for a population of over 300 million that is kind of weak. In Italy around 3,000,000 people gathered to protest at a single event and their population is around 60 million. Even America’s best friends, the French had larger protests and even we have up here. However many people just like to talk and think if they say to their friends they don’t like the war that they are protesting, and if it isn’t in their backyard they are just to lazy to actually get out and do something about it.

    I think it is pathetic how most of America just seems to be complaining. Like I said before we get a lot of media coverage from America. When Obama was elected I saw a lot of Americans, especially celebrities and the so called higher classes saying “Now we can rebuild our country”. I found this funny thinking why couldn’t you do it earlier? You mean to tell me this one little man, Bush, was holding a whole country back. How did America ever become the most powerful country in the world when they can’t stand up and “rebuild themselves”? But I guess you were all waiting for your white knight Obama, to come save you. I know that you are thinking “Well Canada went to war”. This is true and we have even had soldiers who were mistakenly killed by our allies, I won’t name any names. However Canada and England only went to war out of fear of losing our relationship with our number one friend. But I won’t cry and complain and blame one man for all those lost because EVERYONE MAKES CHOICES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEY ALONE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN CHOICES. Soldiers know the possibilities of going to war and they have the choice of joing the military even if they don’t get to choose the war. So in the end stop sounding so pathetic and actually do something about it.

    1. Wrong, we are not a Democracy we are a Republic! Where did you learn this crap?

      “America is a Constitutional Republic . . . NOT a Democracy”

      Let’s say it together now:

      “I pledge allegiance, to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands …. ”

      See American is a Republic!!!!!

      “Dummy, the USA is NOT a Democracy!”

      “America, The Republic”

      “America is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic, a system where the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law and citizens elect representatives to government.”

      Democracy vs Republic

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  115. I love how people who live in this country are calling former and or current presidents terriosts. I have just one thing to say….if you think its so bad in america and everyone is a terriost, why do you leave and go to pakistan or afghanistan and live. maybe then you will see how it is to TRUELY live under a terriost rule. do you walk around thinking President Obama is going to send someone to kill your mother? father? brother? sister? children? NO! so please stop. you make yourself look foolish and and u show your lack of grey matter.

  116. Alright.. you guys are so moronic. Its not like we hold a draft. People choose to join the military in the U.S. So get your facts straight, he’s not considered a seriel killer.

    1. Yes, people do join, after the recruiting offices on major college and high school campuses have pushed their agenda, and the end result getting 35% of the recruits who join because they have no prospects, no future, are usually on a 6th grade level, but are intelligent enough to learn a skill.

      Remember: ” See the world, go to exciting places, meet interesting people, and kill them.”

  117. If your going to put it that way, every country leader is a seriel killer, because every leader of ever nation has the say on what goes on with there military.. freakin Morons.

  118. I just want to say that I can’t believe all you people want to turn a “Serial Killer” site into some lame political conversation. These people were sick and they killed out of lust and hate. Soldiers kill, because there trained to kill BIG difference. Serial killers are psychopaths thats what makes them so interesting. There not like you or me.

  119. Why does a country of 200 million odd people have the highest number of serial killers in the world????? I mean, that’s got to mean something. It’s not just a coincidence. The fact that americans have everything just means that they respect nothing.

  120. 1Bebo: Americans originally come from Europe, Poland and all those strange countries….so who can you tell is a real American???? They are all surrogates. I think the Indians are real Americans, but they don´t harm not even a fly…..

  121. First off, American is more of a title than anything else, it is meant to let others know what you represent. The Native Americans where and still are a great people but they warred with everyone, even other tribes so don’t make everyone else the bad guy. Secondly, Everyone complaining about how G.W. Bush is a killer and all, stop it you anti-American p*****s. I know he made mistakes but you’re only listening to half of the story. I have met several of the middle eastern people who have expressed gratitude for what we have done. We have given them a freedom they never had before and they WANT IT. You’re only hearing how Bush is a killer, then you would have to say that EVERY president is a mass murderer including the founding fathers who gave us this mighty nation with the blood of our own ancestors who where fighting for a chance for their families and future generations. Right now we take everything we have for granted, that it’s a spit in the eye of all of those who gave their lives FOR YOU and everyone who lives here to excel at whatever they give themselves to.

  122. Wow I had more fun reading the comments then I did the actual article and I think its very funny how certain people stopped commenting when someone else put in something that made sense anyways in all that I read I really found it plain silly that anyone can sit back and blame isreal for anything sure Jews come across as greedy but if my nationality was constantly attacked and always had some other country trying to erase it from existence I would get a bit greedy too since isreal walked out of Egypt they have had to deal with tribe after tribes of people trying to exterminate them and unfortunatly for them that will continue untill Jesus returns and cast Satan into the bottomless pit for eternity and that day is coming soon I hope all who read this are prepared for the glorious day of the Lord……..for God so loved the world that He sent His only Son so that who ever believes in Him shall not parish but will have ever lasting life John 3:16 God bless you all

  123. I’ve seen Charles Manson turn up on several of these “serial killer” lists, but it occurs to me that Manson should be included in an as yet unacknowledged NEW category…Mass/serial murder by domination/mind control…Most examples of THIS type of killer also fall under the heading of ‘cult’ killers, and would include Jim Jones, David Koresh, and the like, as well as GROUP killers, such as the KKK and other Societies…
    Hmmm…I think this may be a promising new line of research…Any suggestions from the author as to defining terms, limiting factors/circumstances, etc.?

  124. Regarding my previous post: I’m also aware that this category potentially includes some heads of state as well as sovreign nations…Idi Amin’s propensity for killing his enemies and EATING them, not to mention the Holocaust, could easily be listed under a broad definition…I’d like to narrow that parameter somewhat for purposes of this discussion…

  125. I wish you all would shut up abou the politic thing!There are other websites for that. As far as this one goes, you guys could have done a much better job. I have been studying serial killers for over 20 years, and there is not a single one i know nothing about. Ed gein was not a serial killer, he was a grave robber. Now, he did kill two women, but in order to be named as a serial killer, you must kill three or more. Charles Manson – not a serial killer. He was a cult leader who got nieve people to do his bidding trough mind altering drugs.- Andrew Cunanan was a spree killer. If you really want to read up on serial killers, go to Crime tv. com. They have some REAL serial killers there.

  126. Charles manson has to be one of the best. He would have gotten away free if he did not have the girls blabbing their mouths. I have spent my entire high school carrer studying him and other alike. i enjoyed this article completly. I just wish idiots would stop leavings dumb comments about the war

  127. No…. Manson IS the best. There is no question. Although Webster was pretty good too…I wish to create a replica of that mansion…

  128. What I find funny is that if your trained by a military force than it’s acceptable to kill. I know there is a difference ok, but still. Killing is killing period. If you look at most of their past they were traumatized as children and well I have to say that if you suppress people at some point they snap! Very sad.

  129. Ed Gein wasn’t a serial killer he only killed two people. Charles Manson wasnt a serial killer either, he never killed anyone.

  130. Wow, i enjoyed this article but the idiots that took this off topic and mentioned politics and religion should be trapped in a room with a real serial killer. Im doubting the author made this article to hear a bunch of ignorant hubris completely irrelevant to his subject. It dosent matter what you think in real life, when you’re hiding behind anonyimity, it has no bearing.

  131. There is so much to comment on. I want to stay on topic so bad but it is hard with all of the negative comments getting thrown around. Quickly, I can not stand when people TRY to brag about their education. Always annoying John Gacy. Especially when your grammar isn’t to hot. Not surprised you didn’t mention an English award in your little biography of your self. Let me guess, that’s your next accomplishment that you will mention in an article about child molesters. Way to stay on topic. That’s done. Next, Oh sweet Joe. Good Bless my friend. I mean that. I to suffer from PTSD, it is not fun but it is managable if you work at it. To all the people with your comments about other races. Igonorance is bliss isn’t it. Must be nice to live in your little bubble. Make it a good day guys. It works if you work it.

  132. Unlike some of you, I didnt come here to wow over these killers. I think that my interest stems from the same fears as people who look up sex ofenders that may be in there nieghborhood. Its the fact that most of these killers look normal, everyday Joes and Janes. They work in normal jobs, have normal families, hell they even have active spots in thier churches (BTK killer Dennis Rader ). How do you know these people BEFORE you become the victim? Ive had people ask me how I can stand to read all the bad things that these killers have done? The answer? Because I have people I love and care about and when I look into the face of new people in thier lives I want to be able to recognize the thing that makes serial killers tick. Doesnt everyone? Is there one thing that makes serial killers kill? A bad childhood? From the sound of Joe Ball ( ) he was a son of a wealthy family that was well structured. Ball and BTK were both miltary, so it cant be lack of structure.

  133. (Cont.) Dr. Larry C. Ford ( ) was a educated man so these killers arent just left to lower educated people. The females, well you have the black widows who you think might kill because of thier lives as children but in reality, no ones life is perfect. Every friend of mine has bits, whether large or small, of thier childhood that they have problems dealing with. They havent become serial killers. And what would drive a person to kill thier children?

    The point of this is, you cant see it in thier faces. For me that is the most horrifying thing. So I study these killers. I look for the little things that might give the unfound killers away. I might not be able to spot them on the street, but if they come to my home or to the homes of my friends and family, I want to see that little tick that gives them away.

  134. Almost all of the serial killers have brain leigons if youre looking for a physical similarity they share. A pyschological similarity they have is that they have little understanding of right and wrong and percieve the world not in the yes of the sane, but in their own concreate world ruled by impulse. @Terin, im not sure its accurate to rule out a cause based on a few individual cases, the illogical cant be judged from a logical standpoint because boundries arent the same. Serial Killers thought process reflect what core humanity is before we evolved a concience to collectively work together for a benefit.

  135. Joe, comment 45. Your nuts, Soldiers aren’t the ones coming back from wars and becoming serial murders/rapists, people from dysfunctional families and a hard life make them snap. People that are sadists/masochist are the ones that committee most of these crimes. Oh, and Presidents go to war for a reason. They just don’t wake up one day and decide to bomb someone. Read about some of the wars and you’ll learn that every action has a consequence. Like World War One was caused by the assassination of franz ferdinand by the Black Hand. Then Serbia was given an ultimatum from Austria-Hungry, and Serbia gave and unsatisfactory answer which caused a war between the two. Russia was bound to Serbia by treaty and went to war against Austria-Hungry. Germany was an allie to Austria-Hungry, and then declared war on Russia. Well, so on and so forth. It would take to long as to why America go involved. There for our Presidents go to war for reasons, besides without war no innocent people would die. God knows some of these b*st**ds need to die. The Earth’s population is way to high.

  136. You people need to keep your god damn politics out of this. Also, This isn’t about f****n terrorists; It’s about serial killers.

  137. haha and i like how everyone on this website tries to act all intelligent with their big a*s words. Grow the f**k up, your not typing an essay.

  138. I think it’s pretty retarded that you live in this country and speak so badly of your president. A problem with society today is that we don’t respect authority. I am a republican and don’t necessarily like Obama, but he is our president so I respect him as a higher authority. Besides this website is not about our president; it is about serial killers. So before your pathetic self has to find a random website to bitch about politics, think before speaking because you sound like a dumb a*s.

  139. Serial killers…such an interesting type of people. Innocent people WOULD die even without war btw. Theres a difference between respecting authority and blindly following authority simple because theyre authority (authoritarians for instance?) butl leave it to the republican to dignify it. Serial Killers Serial Killers Serial Killers, did you guyz know that most serial killers have beta blockers? I wonder if that means something…

  140. you’re all idiots saying Bush should be on there.. if that is the case then every single president in U.S. history should be on there.

  141. I agree with Mark…What about East Timor…that was an entire genocide and every president since Carter has supported the killing there and supplied the weapons and supplies to do so.

  142. Serial killers have a deranged mind because the people around them deprive them of the care and attention they need. To lessen their number, we should always show love and affection to all regardless of race, gender, nationality and religion or beliefs.We are all created equal.We should show love and affection at all times so that when our children grow up, they will also show love instead of hatred.

  143. Check out the band “macabre” they’ve been around for quite some time, and all their songs are about serial killers.

    I’ve skimmed through some of the comments on here, and noticed one person calling people sick for being interested in the topic of serial killers. How did that person find this website in the first place???? hmm…? most likely a search engine. Anyways, I love learning about serial killers, it’s a topic that creates fear in people, and makes way for great movies. I’m curious to see who the next “famous” serial killer is going to be. With so many states dropping the death penalty, I am surprised there aren’t more serial killers prowling around? Or are there.. and we just haven’t connected the pieces…..

  144. Rare are the occasions that I’ve seen so many brainwashed reactionaries ruin a perfectly quaint blog on psychopathic mass murder. For shame.

  145. You all look at these people as if they are the sickest of the sick. They are not however they do what they do best. Kill. Jeffrey D. for example one of the kindest men reporters state “Pleasent to be around” people loved Jeffrey, not once was there a complaint about him other than his animal slaying. He complied with every Police wish 100% he was co-opperative. He did was he did because that is how his mind works. Im sure you do some weird things too that people would think differently of you. He brutally raped and slaughtered 17 people. Yeah, okay he is a killer he deserved what he did, of course he did. But he even said, he was to scared to talk to woman so he killed men, mostly African Americans. He defiled dead woman bodies because he did not have the confidence to ever have sex with one, period.

    Jeffrey D. The most famous killer in my opinion. He did what he did because thats how his mind works, end of story. “I really screwed up this time” Jeff said to his father. He never tried to cover anything up hence why there was bones, organs, limbs and heads all over his apartment. He wanted to be caught and stopped. He didn’t want to keep killing.

  146. wow…..i jus happened to be bored and caught up on this site cause it interest me. i can’t help but laugh at the comments on here though. i’ve seen the same people commenting from last year up to now lmfao. get a life no disrespect, if it offends someone oh well…it was probably you i was reffering to.

  147. You people amuse me. Watch. . . And enjoy. 6/21/3/11^25/15/21^1/12/12;) 11/9/12/12^25/15/21^19/15/15/14!!! Simplicity. 😛

  148. Oh and by the way. Just to add to this retarded a*s bullsh*t f***n conversation on politics; Presidents don’t have full control over whether or not we to go to war, Congress does. If you pay attention the only true power a president has is the power to veto. Besides that he’s just the face this country uses to blame for all our problems. Did any of you pay attention in school? I know I didn’t but come the f**k on! Can a person come to this site and strike up a good and RELEVANT f**king conversation for f**k sake? PLEASE!

  149. this was well done but there are several that have been left out…. Zodiac Killer, The Night Stalker…. those are just two i would like to see some more put on this list but i am surprised to see that no matter where you go to see “Famous Serial Killers” Charles Manson is on every list, if i remember correctly he never killed any one he did how ever cut some ones ear with a sword

  150. Manson is actually considered a mass murderer though he never killed anyone. Either way the man was homocidal. Brainwashing people to kill is probably even worse than killing someone yourself.

  151. @gonephisting: You are correct that manson never killed anyone. However, he orderd the Tate/La Bianca killings. He know those houses and he know the people that lived there. Just because he did not lift a finger in their deaths does not mean that he is not responsible because thos people would have never been murdered if he would not have been around.

    As for a post I read about Manson not killing anyone and thats why he did not get the death penalty. That is incorrect. He was sentenced to death along with the girls but California later did away with the death penalty.

  152. Not most crazy people are gay in the 1st place these are just some people. Even if they are gay then who cares the wanted to fufill their fantasies and im really glad thet they’re dead. Some of the things that these people did is scary to think that it did actually happen to some people. Go to type in crime scene photos find the one with the website: under it and click on it, look at some of those photos and tell me u dont feel sorry for those people especially the 2nd photo of Jeffrey Dahmer’s. this is scary to think that it can happen to you one day.

  153. hahaha, some1 posted that some1 else should get a life on a doublepost, irony ftw! Oh well, cant have an irrelevant political discussion without a hyprocrit

  154. believe it or not, but i have read EVERY SINGLE COMMENT on this page 🙂
    and to be quite honest, it has made me laugh. Joe – – totally agree with you that G.W Bush should be on this list, and anyone who says different can say different. these are OPINIONS! opinions means to express what you think and not what others think, i don’t know how soldiers got put into the line, they do what they have to do for their country. i’m not american, but i take my hat off to your soliders and our soldiers (australian), no americans are not the superiors of the world, but it is a place of freedom and opportunity 🙂

    getting back to the topic:
    you do have a good list of serial killers here, some of them were a COMPLETE shock, but they were psychos…. i love reading about criminals like this as i would like to study criminology 🙂 but it makes me sick of how many freaks there are in the world..

    one more thing; i can’t remember who, but someone quoted “these are mostly american serial killers”
    well obviously, the title of the article is “AMERICAS famous serial killers”

    ta! xxx

  155. @ john wayne gacy
    “Im better than all of you, i hope anyone who disagrees with me dies”

    made me ROFL 🙂 loves it

  156. I think serial killers are realy insane…I can’t say that I apreciate their work but sometimes it..dazzes me or something like it, because they think every possibilty every single thing. But it’s horryfing.

  157. serial killers are fascinating. my friend is the neice of charles manson. 🙂 she’s right here. we think that murderers are nifty. personally, dr. holmes interest me the most. along with jack the ripper because he’s so mysterious.

    1. the only thing facinating about serial killers,is that they are on thier way to hell.they know right from wrong.and god says,to repeat a killing over and over,like it mean nothing to them,there is no forgivness.if they were unbelievers in god,before they died,athiest,then if,only if,they accepted jesus before they died,they could have went to heaven.

  158. @jennifer hinton: you better watch out, what if someday a serial killer will catch you and torture you….I don´t think by then they still fascinate you. Maybe you won´t even get a chance to tell he fascinated you, because maybe he doesn´t only torture you but he will kill you as well….hahaha, watch out Jennifer with what you say!

  159. @ Hilda– the analysis of Dr. H.H. Holmes (Mudgett) is fairly accurate on this site; however, the estimate of over 200 people killed is probably a little exaggerated. The lime kilns, dissection tables and furnaces were in the basement. Like the article said there was a chute that the bodies were dumped down to the basement. He also had a airtight safe with a gas vent that backed up to his own office so that he could hear his victim’s struggles for life. After he burned his “castle” he killed his associate and abducted his family. He eventually killed the three children and would have killed the wife if he had not been caught. If you would like to learn more about Holmes I would suggest a great book called “The Devil in The White City.” It intertwines the stories of Dr. Holmes and the architect who drafted the Chicago World’s Fair in 1890.

  160. These people are CRAZY….but I really enjoyed reading about them. I had no idea who half of these people were….the belle lady shocked the hell out of me…i honestly didn’t think people knew how to do the whole insurance claim thing until…well not that long ago…oh, yeah i also noticed that most of these people had either moms or dads that were crazy themselves or beat them…i think it starts with the parents along with them missing a few cans in they’re six pack :)….

  161. Brian is correct. Cunnan was a spree killer and Manson was a cult leader. He was more of a master manipulator than a killer for he didn’t kill anyone. Also Ed Gein killed two people, not one, but most of the bodies and skulls were that of cadavers that he dug up. However, some do consider him a serial killer. According to the FBI, a serial killer must kill atleast three people with a maximum of 30 days between each murder as a ‘cool off period’. But to the standards of the National Institute of Justice, a serial killer is defined as one who kills two or more victims. Stickler-you are also correct. It was Buffalo Bill who was based on Ed Gein, not Hannibal. As well as Norman Bates from “Psycho” and Leatherface from “Texas Chainsaw Massacre”. And to Sarah, I agree with you. What about Richard Ramirez? He is certainly an infamous serial killer. As well as BTK (Dennis Rader), Hillside Stranglers (Kenneth Bianchi & Angelo Buono), Shoe Fetish Slayer (Jerome Brudos), among others. This list isn’t all that accurate, although moderately interesting. Oh and to Bebo, America has over 300 million people, not 200 million. It’s the third most populated country in the world…but you make a valid point. There are a lot of serial killers in America compared to most other countries. To Ana; this is a list of American serial killers, Jack the Ripper was English, although very famous. And to Alex and Juliette-God bless you both.

  162. They say that all killers have Lifeless eyes. I can now see that. The scariest thing is that they think this is right and love what they are doing. But mostly, they will never regret it, no matter what they say.

  163. this was a very intresting artical but to be honest i would like to hear more about famous serial killers that are women cause theres only 1 listed but so many more then that!!! Thanx Lotz



  165. John,
    You are a moron, Pres Bush responded to the american response, redemption for the deaths of thousands of americans.

  166. Where does the bike path rapist fit in. He raped and murder some of his victims. He also was not caught for more than twenty years.

    This took place in Buffalo N.Y. and was a very interesting case.

  167. To john wayne gacy:

  168. @Venom: listen here you stupid A.., why should I go out and kiss a girl, I am no f…… lesbian, I hate gay people. Why don’t you catch a hot sh.t, and be gay…dumb a.. !!

  169. Vincent Bugliosi: “In Manson’s world, he probably felt if he never himself killed anyone but had someone else murder for him, he was thereby immunized or insulated, as it were, from all criminal responsibility. Well, it is not quite that easy, and when you folks come back into this courtroom with your verdict of first-degree murder against Charles Manson, you are going to tell him it’s not quite that easy. In the offbeat world of Charles Manson he probably never heard of this rule of law. Well, he is learning about it right now.”

    Notice how he uses the word ‘probably’. This is ‘probably’ the worst closing argument I’ve ever heard. Manson was convicted through pure speculation and, though I’m not saying he is innocent (as I have no idea), this trial showed a tremendous flaw in the United States justice system. Manson was convicted because of statements the actual killers made. Now, you tell me, do you trust a killer? I sure don’t. So why are we basing our decisions of innocence on the words of people we already know are murderers?

    The judicial system, as well as the government, likes to scrutinize when it comes to their rights and what we owe them, but what about us? What about innocent until proven guilty? Show me the evidence pointing to his guilt.

    The evidence of his innocence is the lack of evidence proving his guilt.

    At any rate, the media (government) sure did make a bundle off of him and his personality.

  170. i find it funny how all the people who try and sound like they are the einstine of the 21st century actually sound like ignorate people who probably have no friends due to them always having to be the most politicaly correct (cough cough juliette ) yeah your smart hun, but your constant arguing gets annoying, i do agree with some of the things you have stated, but turn it down a notch or two.

    also, i dont understand how Geroge W. Bush is a serial killer. look up the definition of Serial Killers, and Geroge W. Bush, i dont see any kind of similarities between the two.

  171. Serial Killers fascinate me. Ed Gein is my favorite profile he inspired 3 of my favorite movie villians is kinda cool. I am only 16 but reading about serial killers is probably one of my favorite things to do. They are so interesting. The way they kill, the psychology, the strategies, everything.

    P.s George W Bush is more of an IDIOT than anything.


  172. It makes you wonder, how an individual can get so twisted. What would drive someone to that point?
    We talk about other species beginning dangerous but the truth is humans are the MOST dangerous things out there. And, how awful would it be to die like all the unfortunate people who were killed by these men and women?
    May God Bless All ~~

  173. @Tony: I write whatever and whenever I want, you can´t tell me what to do and keep yr stupid thinkings for yourself ok?? WTF do you know wether I have friends or not…

  174. The sick and twisted are among us everyday. It’s almost scary walking in a store or riding a bus knowing that anyone of the people around us can kill tourter or rap us. I watch t.v. every day and listen to the news and I can see how some of the sick and twisted end up doing what they do. And yet the ones who do these insane thangs to us get all the attention and the victims are forgotten so all in all the victims end up being victims even after death while the killer or killers end up being some kind of sick super hero.

  175. These people are insane !! They are sychos !! They kill for stupid unreasonable reasons !! Why would someone want to do that ??! KILL ???!! What if someone killed him/her ??! How would that feel ??! To be honest,, when I first read this I realized how insane some people are !! Who would kill their own family??! Okay.. I guess they may did something to you but atleast there are bloodless solutions ! People need to think before they act ! Can’t you see how awful they are ? How much help they need/needed ? The killings are awful !! It’s so unbelievable ! And even some of them admit it !! =S I couldn’t imagine insanity could lead to killing and death ! These people need therapy !
    May God help who needs it more .. !

  176. Is Trophy Hunting A Form of Serial Killing?
    Lion Expert and Conservationist Gareth Patterson Takes Aim

    For me and many of the people who contact me to offer their support, killing innocent animals for self-gratification is no different from killing innocent people for self-gratification. By extension, then, trophy hunting–the repeated killing of wild animals–should surely be viewed as serial killing.

    In The Serial Killers, the authors also wrote about Robert Hansen, an Alaskan businessman and big-game enthusiast who hunted naked prostitutes through the snow as though they were wild animals, then shot them dead. Hansen would point a gun at his victim, order her to take off all her clothes, and then order her to run. He would give his victims a “start” before stalking them. The actual act of killing his victims, Hansen once said, was an “anti-climax” and that “the excitement was in the stalking.”

    How many times have I heard trophy hunters describing their actions in similar terms? “No, hunting is just about killing,” they say. “It’s also about the stalk, the build-up to the kill.”

    Hansen was a trophy hunter, who, according to Wilson and Seaman, had achieved “celebrity by killing a Dall sheep with a crossbow.” He also trophy hunted women but, as a married man with a family, he couldn’t put his human trophies next to those elk antlers and bear skins in his den.
    As an alternative, Hansen, it was revealed, took items of jewellery from his victims as “trophies” and hid these in his loft so that, as with his animal trophies, he, the hunter, could relive his fantasy-inspired killings whenever he wished to.

  177. I think that this is a great way to inform people about the most famous serial killers in America and it helps give us a good look into their minds. However I do think it is kind of disturbing that some people do admire some of these killers.

  178. @Juliette….you have no brain. I cannot believe that people still think like you. Who do you think you are saying you hate gay people? How many gay people do you know? You dumb B****!

  179. @Juliette….You have been rambling on about how your people have been persecuted for all of time….Jewish people that is……..You probably don’t even realize that homosexuals were thrown in the concentration camps with the Jews. My point being, why would you preach about your people getting persecuted and then say you hate a group of people that have been just as persecuted as your people. You really are an I***t.

  180. @Doogie: Now listen here you a..hole, I say whatever I want. You gays are an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. You were not born gay, you think you are women, but you are MEN. I don´t like you gays. You are stupid and ridiculous. You cannot ever be a woman, not even when you do operations, you were born a MAN!!! And one thing is for sure: you cannot imitate women, you act very stupid when you gays do like a woman!! You are no women, so don´t imitate one. Be a man. And go cal your female family B….. and I….. ok?

  181. Juliette… you are a bigoted disgusting hypocrite… not only did you have to go and turn this into a political argument, but then you go and say that you hate gays and you think they all want to be women, while blessing people and quoting the Bible at them. Sick in the head you are, and you can say what you want to me, it’ll roll off like water from a duck’s back. Can’t believe there are still people like you in this world.

  182. @Cica: you also can say whatever you want to me, I don´t care!! I did not turn this into a political argument, you should read the other comments addressed to me first. Yes, gays want to be women, otherwise they would not have this ridiculous attitude pretending they are women. And I don´t like them.. that´s final and I am free to speak whatever I want, not you or nobody can tell me not to. Comment whatever you want, I dont care..!! Read EVERY comment first before you address something to me. I bet you are soe lesbian…I can´t believe people still accept you people. Sodom and Gomorra that´s what this world is turnin in to!!!!!

  183. This is a good list information wise; however, it is riddled with spelling, grammar and sentence structure errors! You have a lot of views and this is a pretty successful blog, perhaps it is time to go through it and fix a few of those distracting mistakes!

  184. Also, Juliette…you are entitled to have your own opinion, but others are entitled to theirs as well…

    I was raised in a Christian home, went to Christian school all my life, and love my God very much…but unfortunately the God I praise and the God you disgrace are very different. It’s people like you that turn others off to God, and I have encountered many.

    Unfortunately your cynicism and judgmental behavior is something you will never feel remorse for.

    Lastly, It’s spelled “Gomorrah”.


  185. @Juliette….We will see who ends up burning in hell! I guarantee you have a first class ticket there. You are a horrible, nasty human being. I at least have a heart. I am not even gay. My brother is and he does not act or want to be a woman. You are a cold hearted woman who is going to or already is suffering.

  186. @Juliette

    I totally agree with them. You are definitely a cynic and judgemental. There is NOTHING wrong with being gay. It is their personal choice and there is nothing you can do about it. If someone chooses to want to be with someone of the same sex it is up to them. You have no say in that matter.
    Also, I do believe that being gay is NOT one of the 7 deadly sins… but wrath is. Wrath is uncontrolled feelings of hatred and anger. It is VERY obvious that you have uncontrolled feelings of hatred towards the gay community.. so lets see who will be the one to rot in hell 🙂

  187. As a note before I begin: I only wish to insult Juliette in this tirade. If I insult anybody else, I apologize.

    *heavy sigh* Good God Almighty Juliette, you certainly are an idiot. One I’d LOVE to meet in person too, just to see evidence that such a stupid person does, in fact, exist.

    As a gay teenager, I find your comments not only offensive, but INCREDIBLY inaccurate. I’d seriously like to know how many gay or lesbian people you’ve ever met and actually talked with, do tell in your next post which I’m sure is in the making. Your inaccuracy only proves your ignorance, I do hope you enjoy living in such a blissful world.

    You’re entitled to your opinions, I suppose, but really you should keep the intolerance to yourself. Go have a nice little bit*h session with your homophobic friends about “Sodom and Gomorra that´s what this world is turnin in to!!!!!” because that’s clearly the case, seeing as homosexuals are a minority and always have been…Well put, moron. (Who, by the way, can’t spell or even type in general worth a da*n, just thought I’d point that out.)

    Does my heart good to see that the world is moving towards acceptance with all the people like you out there to help push it there. *rolls eyes*

    Other than that, all I have to say is that it was an interesting article, and I appreciate the comments above that actually stayed on topic, even if the ones that didn’t were far more entertaining.

    Oh, and 2 quick after-thoughts:

    1. I absolutely love how Juliette went crazy. But not only crazy, crazy about how much smarter she was than everyone else. (Post #123-126). Isn’t it hilarious when people who aren’t smart enough to realize that being tolerant, and even *gasp* accepting, of homosexuals and other minorities is an intelligent choice try to stress their intelligence?

    and 2. Juliette, if I am going to hell, I’ll be sure to save you a room right by mine and my boyfriend’s.
    Can’t wait to see you there :]

  188. bla bla bla, I said what I had to say, and I don´t care about your comments, so don´t even bother…I don´t care about your opinions either.

  189. wow how many of theses have been made in to a movie?
    lot of these are brutal …i also heard that now and days with average day serial killers, that when there caught the’re given a test. that is one question long

    background: a girl goes to a funeral and while atteding the funeral she notices a man. in which she has never seen before. in that moment she fell in love with the man. a month later she kills her sister.
    Q: why did she kill her sister?
    >stil thinking>
    well if u havent figured it out heres the answer

    A: she wanted to see the man again… in order to do so she needed another funeral.

    sadly my best friend took this test online and he guessed it right….

  190. @Juliette: ok , you are apperantly (did i spell that right) ignorant about gay’s. So frist off I suggest you spend some time in a gay getto, second sure most gay men want to be a woman but because, not that they just want to be a woman out of nowere” the new crave” , but becuase they feel they are truly are a women, but they were born a man. The point is not all gay people act like women , or want anything to do with a women. by the way the bible says “do not judge others, for by doing so u will be jugde the same way u judge” and i with babbie. ur so full of hate and disgust how can u say that im going to rot in hell for being gay. “love thy neighbor ” doesnt it say that in the bible. God doesnt hate me. he doesnt hate you. but u sadden him with your hateful remarks and crude behavior. one more thing if you didnt care about what people where saying… you wouldn’t be writing trying to defend your-self. by the way i pray for you…
    one more thing u started the poiltical argument no one else metioned politics except you. one more thing this country, America , as some like to call it. is a secular goverment. hahah wait you probably dont know whats secular means ….secular=non- religous. So i dnt know why your bringing religon in to politics. prop 8 shouldn’t have passed just because its a theocratric sure right to religon, but the founding fathers wanted the laws to be secular. have fun with your misearble, and hateful life.

  191. Thanks babiee :]

    So, since I’ve never even touched a Bible in my life, I decided to do some research into the matter. If anyne was planning to use the Bible as a defense for being homophobic, you may wish to take the following quiz and see how well you do.

    An engineering professor is treating her husband, a loan officer, to dinner for finally giving in to her pleas to shave off the scraggly beard he grew on vacation. His favorite restaurant is a casual place where they both feel comfortable in slacks and cotton/polyester-blend golf shirts. But, as always, she wears the gold and pearl pendant he gave her the day her divorce decree was final. They’re laughing over their menus because they know he always ends up diving into a giant plate of ribs but she won’t be talked into anything more fattening than shrimp.

    Quiz: How many biblical prohibitions are they violating?

    The Answer: Well, wives are supposed to be ‘submissive’ to their husbands (I Peter 3:1). And all women are forbidden to teach men (I Timothy 2:12), wear gold or pearls (I Timothy 2:9) or dress in clothing that ‘pertains to a man’ (Deuteronomy 22:5). Shellfish and pork are definitely out (Leviticus 11:7, 10) as are usury (Deuteronomy 23:19), shaving (Leviticus 19:27) and clothes of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19). And since the Bible rarely recognizes divorce, they’re committing adultery, which carries the rather harsh penalty of death by stoning (Deuteronomy 22:22).

    Also, the Bible contains only six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn’t mean that God doesn’t love heterosexuals, does it? Of course not. So get over yourself.

    Oh, and since I know idiots_disappoint_and_annoy_me is a bit of a mouthful, just call me David.

    To end this, I’ve got a quote for everyone. Enjoy. :]

    “If homosexuality is a disease, let’s all call in queer to work: ‘Hello. Can’t work today, still queer.'” ~Robin Tyler

    So I’m not gonna lie, I’m glad this turned into a political discussion. Way more fun if I do say so myself. 😛

  192. hhaha lol this is supposed to be a serial killer discussion or sumthing like that and we turned it in to a political argument thats funny

  193. A small correction – these serial killers should never be referred to “FAMOUS”.
    There crimes, words and deeds should be called “INFAMOUS”

  194. No problemo Doogie, to be honest I enjoy arguing with homophobes and the like. It’s basically my favorite pasttime, especially when I’m pleasantly surprised by the number of people who agree with me over them, as I am here. :]

    And Juliette, I notice you didn’t bother to answer my question about how many gay people you’ve ever talked to…Not that I wasn’t pretty sure already, but that makes me even more sure the answer is a big, fat 0. It’s a shame really, that you’ve never talked to a single lesbian woman or gay man. Ah well, with your attitude I suppose the only thing you could talk about is how they’re destined for hell, AIDS is God’s cure for the gays, *insert homophobic phrase here*, etc. which can certainly kill a conversation…

  195. I came here to read about serial killers and was forced to read what all of you have said. I think you, idiots_disappoint_and_annoy_me, have a way with words, sir. I love the way you defended yourself. When I started out reading (I won’t lie) I agreed with Juliette. I have never really liked gays, if that is politically correct. But as I kept reading I realized that like everyone else you are normal. Not that i’m saying I thought of gays as some alien race but I’m sure you understand. Now I have a whole new respect for your way of thinking. I haven’t talked to many gay men, but I did encounter a lesbian once. She had the hots for me, but anyways I will admit that. Unlike Juliette who is just a moron.

    @Juliette- Honey, open your eyes. I realize you’re probably just some loner who comes here to talk S^*t and you go ahead. The only reason you say these idiotic things is because you can hide behind your monitor. If you were face-to-face with any of these people you would not asy a single word. Face it. You are a coward with no true facts. All of these people who have replied to you made you look like a fool. You are a stupid girl and you need some kind of therapy. And unlike you I would actually say these things to your face.

    @All of the people who have read her (Juliette’s) comments, and myself…We sure do have alot of patience, don’t we? She sits her talking about things she knows nothing about. I am not an expert on the Bible, don’t get me wrong, but I know God loves everyone. He even loved all the men we came to this Website to read about. All equally. It pained him to see them mirdering and so forth, but he loved them. Maybe even more than he loves the good people if this world. He knew they needed help and I believe he tried very hard to steer them off their paths of destruction.

    (again)@ Juliette…I feel sorry for you. I know alot of hypocrites. You are the biggest one I have encounted, yet. I mean I don’t give a S^*t what you said about the politics, that doesn’t matter. How dare youcome here and TRY to make people feel bad about themselves. I would bet God loves any of these “homos” (as you like to call them) more than he likes sitting here watching you trying to make them feel bad about who they are. I’d also bet that you are not half the person that these guys are. At least they know how to love- man or woman/gay or straight. You have no concept of what it means to ‘Love thy Neighbor’- which if you didn’t know entails everyone. Not just good, upstanding citizens. It means love the murderers, the terrorists, the people who cut you off while driving, your exboyfriends, (and yes) even gay people.

    So when you have had enough time to comprehend what I’ve said…go ahead and reply. I’m sure you will have some dumb ass remark like “ohh you’re probably a lesbian”, and if that is what you will say I will answer it for you.

    “No, I am not a lesbian. I am just the girl who read your stupid posts and decided to set you straight.”

    Okay, honey, you can close your jaw now–I’m sure it dropped..


  196. Perhaps…but then would be punish this murderer?
    What if there was a rebellion from other homophobes who killed him?
    Would we then rebel back and kill them?

  197. That would be absolutely faaaaabulous…sort of =/ We have to remember homophobes are people too, and as much as it may seem sometimes that they deserve to die, it’s part of our duty as superior people to be the better person that we already know we are and not be affected by their meaningless comments to the point where we wish them dead. Because we’re better than that, there is no reason we should stoop to their level. Now, if I could, maybe I could suggest that perhaps there should be a serial killer that killed queer-bashers, because then they’re more doing a service to the community rather than a crime-removing dangerous people from society.

    Sorry if that sounded bit*hy at all babiee, ya know I love ya hun!

  198. Innocent Bystander, I sincerely thank you for your compliments, and am so glad you’ve had a change of heart. I understand where you’re coming from about the whole realization “that like everyone else you are normal,” because I too, before I came to realize that little detail about myself of course, thought that gays and lesbians were different, and had something…off shall we say? about them. At that point I’d never even met a single gay or lesbian person. Then one thing led to another and I met a gay man at my meeting (basically a Quaker church for those who don’t know) who I’ve learned a lot from. So yeah, I understand where you’re coming from. :]

    And you are so right about Juliette I think. I doubt, should the day we ever meet face to face come around *shudder*, she wouldn’t dare say half of those things to me. Although, that could easily be accredited to my not letting her get a word in, because in real life I can talk over her and shut her up, which I unfortunately can’t do here.

    Finally, for everyone’s consideration, I’ve come up with a theory that I think logically makes sense as it’s something that afflicts some homosexuals as they are going through the coming out process. I think Juliette might be a lesbian, and this is her denial phase. She’s also taken it a step further as a friend of mine did and become a homophobe, to further prove her heterosexuality which is nothing more than a facade. Best of luck to you Juliette if that is the case, otherwise I hope you can one day meet a gay or lesbian person and have a change of heart as Innocent Bystander did.

  199. Not at all idiots_disappoint_and_annoy_me!
    not bit*hy at all!

    I actually like your idea better. the ‘Queer-basher’ killer. I like it 🙂
    Either way, Juliette would obviously end up on that hit list.

    I rather enjoyed how Juliette was rambling on about how Adlof Hitler was a serial killer.. because he killed many Jews.. well he was also a Homophobe. He killed homosexuals aswell, and the disabled. I was really quite shocked that she wasn’t praising him.

  200. @idiots_disappoint_and_annoy_me, that really is a long name! I’m glad you understood. After I posetd it I was afraid everyone would take it the wrong way.

    *In my situation, I was kind of close to this girl…as friends. I started hanging out with this guy and all of a sudden she started to act really b#&chy around him. Eventually I stopped talking to her, and him…Then one day I went on her myspace and her “sexual orientation” said Bi-sexual. After I saw that I realized why she hated him so much, because I liked him/he liked me. I was a bit creeped out because I had been around her so much and had changed in front of her. I felt betrayed. She never tolde me about it until I messaged her on myspace. I was absolutely apalled that someone would take advantage of me like that. It really hurt me. I have never really -had a problem- with gay men, I just don’t get close to chicks I know are gay anymore!!

    about Juliette- I think you are right. MAybe she is in denial. Or maybe she doesn’t actually feel like that about the issue. I just think she has nothing better to do than come here and talk S*^t. ya know? I mean- why else would she continue to sit here and talk trash…

    I think it’s quite stupid. I’m afraid to say the extremity of how I feel because I don’t want her to feel like complete trash 😉

    Haha but she’s just a moron.

    And about meeting her, I would advise you not to. *You might catch her dumbness* lol
    I don’t really think us making up any serial killers is a good idea… that would be lowering to their level, and you don’t want to do that.

    Wasn’t “Jeffrey Dahmer” A Queer-Basher? I read a Larry King interview about him and it said most of his victims were also homosexual.

    (Plus- if a “Queer-Bashing” serial killer were to come about Juliette would probably lead the authoritie straight to this website. Then we’d all be screwed… haha)

    Thank you for taking the time to read my short-stories. These posts are sooo long.
    I only wish Juliette had something more to say about what I’ve said to her. I am just curious about what her dumb @$$ has to say…

    Until next time,

    Innocent Bystander

  201. When I called Jeffrey Dahmer a Queer-Basher I meant to say he killed men that were gay. I wrote it wrong. It doesn’t sound right the way that it is.
    So Sorry


  202. Why is it that when a male homophobe sees two gay men kissing, they find it repulsive, but when that same homophobe sees two gay WOMEN kissing, they ‘love it’ and get ‘turned on’??
    sorry, but this, to me anyways, is STUPID.

  203. @babiee, their hypocrics ( srry if i spelled it wrong). although I have met a few men (hetro-homophobes) that didnt like seeing women haveing sex at all. actually no there not hypocrics ( again im srry) its a pride thing, and sort of proof of there, “hetrosexualality”. Yes, it is stupid.

    Also, some men don’t like looking at other mens penis’s (<<<was that spelled right?).
    So, like my uncle he enjoys lesbian porn, because it shows he "loves vigina". straight men and their pride. Its sad, because if they felt secure about their sexual prefrenece ( again iim srry) they would need to prove anything. OH well.

    @the @@@@@ guy….. no he didnt just create them there were brothers and sisters not just adam and eve so possiblitites are someone was gay.

  204. Yes, they are hypocrites.

    I rather enjoy this little discussion.

    I find myself here reading and writing posts when I should working…



  205. @Babiee- The men you have seen/heard about getting turned on by watching girls kiss probably are not watching lesbians. Many straight girls kiss other girls just to get a reaction out of men. Stupid girls—they’ll do anything to please a man.

    Give a girl a drink and she’ll do pretty much anything. It disgusts me. I am a 100% straight male and I hate girls like that. If she’ll do it to turn you on when you date her she’ll do it with someone else.

    It sickens me that girls act like this. I don’t want a tramp. I want a girl who is intelligent-not just book smarts, street smarts too- I want her to know if someone is taking advantage of her. I definately don’t want her sleeping with my best friends. I want her to be funny-the kind of funny I can laugh at and she won’t get offended. She has to be caring…likes animals, people, the whole nine yards. I want a girl I would be proud to have meet my parents.

    It is really sad that there aren’t many of those. If you disagree…LOOK AROUND YOU!

    All these girls are just…I don’t even have a word to place on it.

    Please tell me if you know any like I mentioned above!
    Ha, good luck finding one.

    -17 year old Ray

  206. I dont want this to be taken the wrong way, but I have always wanted a gay friend. because I dont get along well with other girls. but i get along with guys very well. but there are somethings that I cant talk to a straight guy about.
    just one of the reasons I would kick anyones ass if they bashed any homosexual. (:

  207. i must admit, i have found this entire conversation to be quite the talk. i find it interesting that anyone could be so entirely ignorant, (@ Juliette), and that gay men and lesbian women are capable of being so proud and protective of their orientation. it is an admiration, of sorts, that there are still people out there who WILL stand up for who they are, and dont back down and cowar in the presence of the idiots whom Miss Juliette is such a perfect example of. :]

  208. @babiee, its strange how most women when a guy comes out to them…..they say “omg i always wanted a gay friend” its funny how that happens… but yeah gay ppl, we’re the best to talk to. straight guys are just akward.

    @innocent Bystander, same here, i came to this website to research serial killers for a summer project and this sidetracked me.

  209. @erik- we are not alone! haha

    @ray- I never knew there were guys like you out there! Where have you been all of my life? Don’t give up hope, there are still good women out there…

    I am sad Juliette hasn’t come back to make a fool out of herself


  210. @ Ray;
    I know what you are talking about. These people are the reason I do not get along well with girls. Almost every other girl I know acts like this and it makes me want to rip her hair out (not to sound violent or anything :P).. Women ask why men assume they are better than us and wonder why they are called these rude names like tramp, and other things, but it is because of this. I am definitly not one of these girls and I can not even have a 5 minute conversation with these girls without turning hostile.
    If anyone ever tried to take advantage of me I would kick their ass. I am my own person and I am quite happy with that.

    @ Innocent Bystander;
    I am sad Juliette has not returned either 🙁

  211. @ Innocent Bystander & Babiee, well since shes gone mabye everyone can go back to the serial killers. hahaha it was hilarious watching her make a complete idiot out of herself. sshe probably comes back to see what we wrote but doesnt have the balls to say anything , because she knows we’re right.

  212. @Babiee and Innocent Bystander- Thank you ma’am(s). When I wrote that about stupid bit&#s I was afraid all of the women on this site would start a revolt against me. I guess I was wrong. Two out of Two agree. I wish i knew you two girls…well at least one. I’m sure you don’t like to share, and neither do I. 😉

    I will attempt to start a conversation about serial killers, now.

    I think Jeffrey Dahmer is the worst. I’m sorry if you diasagree. I loked at photos of the crime scenes, victims, and autopsy photos. They are absolutely disgusting. One had his whole torso cut out. Sick…

  213. @any one on this site-
    “Where do you stand? Honoring love as precious and true wherever you find it, or with those who would demean or deny it? I urge you. Stand where you can be proud. Stand with service and truth. Stand with love. Stand for liberty and justice for all.”

    FROM INNOCENT BYSTANDER- I saw this on a site about the “2009 Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month” annd I thought it fit us quite well.

    @Ray- Haha I do agree with you. That is why 7/8 of my frineds are male. I have two really good girl friends (which aren’t like those dumb c*nts we talk about). All the rest are guys. Which makes it hard to get a boyfriend because for some reason guys get really intimidated when the only people you hang out with are dudes. And that sucks. Who needs a boyfriend though? Nah, not me. For the moment at least. NOt until I meet the guy that wants his girl to be like what Ray wants.
    I won’t hold my breath!!

    @all of you- Girls aren’t the only problem, you know. Guys can be complete douche bags. Alot of them are. The only guys I’ve ever been with are all douche bags. Well bot all. Two weren’t. Well actually one. The other left me-which automatically puts him on the jerk list. ONE GUY out of how many? alot. But I did not sleep with all of them- so don’t think I am a whore.

    ANYWAYS- Men can be jerks girls can be bitches. Yet somehow people fall in love. I was only in love one time. One rela time. I’ve had teen love, only one time was I actually in love-ready to die for him, run away with him-all that. My parents HATED him, so much they told him they would get a Restraining order against him. He couldn’t risk that. HE had to go to college. So I was left here, alone, waiting to die. Then I realized if he left he wasn’t worth my tears. So here I am now…happy and just enjoying life.

    I don’t need a man to make me whole.
    I just need myself, which is all that I want…for now.
    Anyone know how I feel?

  214. @ Ray
    haha no problem. I was actually very relieved there is actually a guy like that out there.

    but I do actually disagree with your Jeffery Dahmer statement 😛 I think that Ed Gein was worse than Jeffery Dahmer. Concidering he dug up corpses, skinned them so he could make a human suit, used the rest of their body parts for food and furnisher, and eventually killed women for ‘fresh skin’. Don’t get me wrong, Jeffery Dahmer was bad, I just think Ed Gein was worse.

    @Innocent Bystander
    I know exactly what you are talking about. Guys can be such ignorant douchbags. I too have dated alot of guys, but have not slept with any of them, so I also know how you feel when you say “so don’t think I am a whore”. I have had guys act completely amazing and sweet before we start dating, then he turns into a complete loser and treats me like shi*t. I’ve also had guys break up with me because I wont ‘put-out’. So, yes, I know EXACTLY what you mean. Guys can be douchbags and girls can be ( well, most of them are ;P) bitches.
    You do not need a man to make you whole, especially when you have friends and family who will be there for you at all times. Don’t worry, you will eventually meet someone just like Ray described and will be completely wonderful. Thats what I am waiting on.

  215. @Babiee- I def like you AALLOOTT more than Juliette. Lol. Actually, there never was a comparison. I have made a shit ton of mistakes- involving guys. I’m glad to hear that you don’t put out. That’s the last thing I need. An internet friend who is secretly a skank. LOL j/k Babiee. Anyways, I know there are alot of nice guys out there, I miss out on some of them because they tend to be older. At least older guys aren’t immature like the 16yr olds my age.

    And jus ttoday I found out I guy I HAD been seeing had a girlfriend the whole time, now she’s pissed @me and wants to fight. ‘cept she odn’t know where I live. Let the bitch find me. I’ll kick her ass..and any friends she brings with her.

    Bye for now.

  216. Forgive me..I decided to shorten my name…

    @Babiee- Yes, now that I think about it (you convinced me) ED is worse. They’re both bad! All serial killers are bad, doi! Haha

    I wish I would have gotten the pleasure to make this “Juliette” look dumb like all of the rest of you.

    My two fave comebacks are Idiots_disappoint_and_annoy_me and Innocent bystander.

    @INNOCENT BYSTANDER- you showed her, girl! The way you told her to pick up her jaw- genious!!


    “If you were face-to-face with any of these people you would not asy a single word. Face it. You are a coward with no true facts. All of these people who have replied to you made you look like a fool. You are a stupid girl and you need some kind of therapy. And unlike you I would actually say these things to your face.”

    God you have a way with words. She probably cried when she read your post.HAHA


    “How dare youcome here and TRY to make people feel bad about themselves. I would bet God loves any of these “homos” (as you like to call them) more than he likes sitting here watching you trying to make them feel bad about who they are. I’d also bet that you are not half the person that these guys are. At least they know how to love- man or woman/gay or straight. You have no concept of what it means to ‘Love thy Neighbor’- which if you didn’t know entails everyone. Not just good, upstanding citizens. It means love the murderers, the terrorists, the people who cut you off while driving, your exboyfriends, (and yes) even gay people.”

    You guys read this and didn’t commend her for how great it is??? HOW DARE YOU!! 😉
    lol but honestly—innocent, you, my dear, must marrry me…haha I wish there was a woman would stand up to everyone like the way you did. Good Job! Sorry it took so long for me to tell you how awesome it is. 😉

    ***Now it is time for everyone who liked her post{if you haven’t read it READ it} (Innocent Bystander Says:
    July 10th, 2009 at 7:53 am) TELL HER…tell her what you think. good, amazing, great, anything. We need to give our friends feed back. If someone says something powerful tell them!! From now on…


  217. @ Innocent Bystander – ahaha thanks. LOL definitly not a skank, dont worry 😛 .. haha I know. All the 16year old guys my age are so immature.

    hahah, just another reason why alot of guys are douchbags.

  218. @ babiee and innocent, ok i was wondering if u could help me out. One of my friends is in love with this guy. like ready to die for,kill for yadada. anyway he loves her too but he acts like an ass everytime. one time he said he loved her, she repliled u do?. the he said no i was kidding i love every one. see but the thing is is that, a year ago he was with this girl who then cheated on him, but he ws in omega love with her. im thinking he doesnt want to trust anyone so he luvs my friend but hes to afraid to say anything.

    he would tell her he trust her but always acts like an ass, sort of like pushing away so he doesnt get hurt….,. my friend always looks to me fer advise. cuz im like her gay boyfriend. shes my “straight GF”. any comments on wat she should do?

  219. @ erik, I think the first thing that needs to be done is this guy needs to realize that not every girl is like his last. There are girls out there who would never cheat on him and who would never hurt him purposly. I think your friend should sit down with him and have a serious coversation. Earn his trust by telling him secrets about her that no one else knows or something.. just earn his trust somehow. Then she should tell him how she feels about him. not just “i like you,” but really say how she feels. Then she should tell him that she isnt like his last girlfriend, and would never do anything like that..

    ..I hate girls who actually cheat in a relationship. Not just girls, cause guys do it too. How could anyone live with themselves after that? knowing that they just broke the trust, honesty and love they had in a relationship.
    Girls who cheat are useless. All they do is ruin the guy..making it harder for him to love again.

  220. @babiee thank u, hopefully that wrks….becuz theres also this thing,,,,,i think hes gay… but im not sure, but he says he lovres her…but thank you hopefully she listens…

    i totally agree

  221. well i talked to her today and shes planning on fighting fire with fire…… she wants to do the same thing that he does to her…..i told her it was a bad idea….but no she wont listen….

  222. @Erik- Oh no! Don’t let her do that. All that iwll do is piss him off.

    I think you should talk to both of them. If she is truly in love with him and you think she wouldn’t hurt him, tell him that. I’m sure he’d trust you. I agree with Babiee 100 percent. I was going thru all the things your girl friend could do before i read what babiee said and i came up with exactly what she said. Your girl friend needs to remind the guy she isn’t like the last girl, and she would never hurt him. Actions speak louder than words, though.

    Warn her not to fight “fire with fire”. hasn;”t she heard the rest of the saying??

    “If you fight FIRE with FIRE all you get is a BIGGER FLAME”

    My god…remind her how the erst of that old saying goes, maybe she won’t do it. Or tell her to come to this website so us girls (me and babiee) can talk some sense in to her.
    We (well idk about babiee). I have been through this with a guy- now that i think about it i did love him (i said yesterday there was only one). He’s my good friend. Anyways, he had a relationship where he dated a girl for 2 years, and on their 2yr. anniversary she slept with his BEST FRIEND. He was devastated. It took him a long time to open back up to anyone but me and the rest of the guys we’re in a circle with. By this time I was falling in love with him. Hard. But I wouldn’t dare to tell him that. I was there for him no matter what. I couldn’t ruin that friendship with my feelings. So he started dating this girl. She was truly one of the skanks we talk about. Iknew she was bad news, and tried to warn him several times. But he thought she was perfect. She lied to get him to be with her. SHe told him she didn’t smoke, drink, or do drugs-just because he didn’t do those things. Later on he found out she did. Then she became demanding-she would try to force him to have sex with her. He’s one of those guys who likes to know he loves the girl before sex-and keep in mind he had his heart broken by his gf of 2yrs. So then they start to argue-and guess what-she cheats. more than once. He dumps her. So now I am so in love with this guy it’s pitiful. By now he trusts me, right? So i decide to tell him how I feel. Turns out he still has trust issues. So i stay by his side and make him know i would never hurt him. We were closer friends than he was with any of the guys. And, after a few weeks he tells me how he feels. We were both head over heels for eachother. It was great.

  223. I just had to remind him I am not like those two girls that broke his trust. I would not cheat.

    And I would tell him- _______(insert name) those girl swere so stupid to mess things up with you. You are an amazing person and anyone who doesn’t treat you as such doesn’t deserve to talk to you.

    But, now we’re just close friends again. Things don’t always work out…but we’re going to give it another try. The only problem with our relationship is that he’s going to college. And I’m still in high school. 🙁

  224. Interesting conversaton. You ladies are right about this situaton. They need to talk, and she needs to reassure him she isn’t like the rest.

    I think we should talke a poll…who had the best comebacks to Juliette?

    A. Innocent
    B. idiots_disappoint_and_annoy_me

    No offense to anyone…my vote goes to A. INNOCENT BYSTANDER

  225. Awh. Thanks Ray. I like to speak my mind…everyone who said something to her *usually* did a good job. There were a few close to the top that were iffy. Where is everyone today? I am used to people replying…now noone is.

    “It’s just me and you, and you and me- aloooone together….. I can’t see me lovin nobody but you….”

  226. “for aaal myy life…” 😉

    Marry me innocent…wait…how old are you? I hope you aren’t like sum 30 year old hag! *no offense if anyone here is 30 :)*

  227. @Ray…

    “And I’m still in high school.”

    As I said earlier ^

    Btw- I am sixteen

    Are you truly 17?

  228. Haha…There really is noone else but us. How creepy. Usually at least one person says something. Ray…I have something funny. Want to see it?


  229. Wellhung: Hello, Sweetheart. What do you look like?

    Sweetheart: I am wearing a red silk blouse and a miniskirt and high heels. My measurements are 36-24-36. I work out every day. I’m toned and perfect. What do you look like?

    Wellhung: I’m 6’3″ and about 250 pounds. I wear glasses and I have on a pair of blue sweatpants I just bought at Walmart. I am also wearing a T-shirt with a few spots of barbecue sauce on it from dinner – it smells a little funny.

    Sweetheart: I want you. Would you like to screw me?

    Wellhung: OK.

    Sweetheart: We’re in my bedroom. There’s soft music playing on the stereo and candles on my dresser and night table. I’m looking up into your eyes, smiling. My hand works its down to your crotch and begins to fondle your huge, swelling bulge.

    Wellhung: I’m gulping. I’m beginning to sweat.

    Sweetheart: I’m pulling up your shirt and kissing your chest.

    Wellhung: Now I’m unbuttoning your blouse. My hands are trembling.

    Sweetheart: I’m moaning softly.

    Wellhung: I’m taking hold of your blouse and sliding it off slowly.

    Sweetheart: I’m throwing my head back in pleasure. The cool silk slides off my warm skin. I’m rubbing your bulge faster, pulling and rubbing.

    Wellhung: My hand suddenly jerks spastically and I accidently rip a hole in your blouse. I’m sorry.

    Sweetheart: That’s OK, it wasn’t really too expensive.

    Wellhung: I’ll pay for it.

    Sweetheart: Don’t worry about it. I’m wearing a lacy black bra. My soft breasts are rising and falling, rising and falling, as I breath harder and harder.

    Wellhung: I’m fumbling with the clasp on your bra. I think it’s stuck. Do you have any scissors?

    Sweetheart: I take your hand and kiss it softly. I’m reaching back and undoing the clasp. The bra slides off my body. The air caresses my breasts. My nipples are erect for you.

    Wellhung: How did you do that? I’m picking up the bra and inspecting the clasp.

    Sweetheart: I’m arching my back. Oh baby. I just want to feel your tongue all over me.

    Wellhung: I’m dropping the bra. Now I’m licking your, you know, breasts. They’re neat!

    Sweetheart: I’m running my fingers through your hair. Now I’m nibbling your ear.

    Wellhung: I suddenly sneeze. Your breasts are covered with spit.

    Sweetheart: What?

    Wellhung: I’m so sorry. Really.

    Sweetheart: I’m wiping your spit off my breasts with the remains of my blouse.

    Wellhung: I’m taking the sopping wet blouse from you. I drop it with a plop.

    Sweetheart: OK. I’m pulling your sweatpants down and rubbing your hard tool.

    Wellhung: I’m screaming like a woman. Your hands are cold! Yeeee!

    Sweetheart: I’m pulling up my miniskirt. Take off my panties.

    Wellhung: I’m pulling off your panties. My tongue is going all over, in and out, nibbling on your … umm … wait a minute.

    Sweetheart: What’s the matter?

    Wellhung: I’ve got a pubic hair caught in my throat. I’m choking.

    Sweetheart: Are you OK?

    Wellhung: I’m having a coughing fit. I’m turning all red.

    Sweetheart: Can I help?

    Wellhung: I’m running to the kitchen, choking wildly. I’m fumbling through the cabinets, looking for a cup. Where do you keep your cups?

    Sweetheart: In the cabinet to the right of the sink.

    Wellhung: I’m drinking a cup of water. There, that’s better.

    Sweetheart: Come back to me, lover.

    Wellhung: I’m washing the cup now.

    Sweetheart: I’m on the bed, aching for you.

    Wellhung: I’m drying the cup. Now I’m putting it back in the cabinet. And now I’m walking back to the bedroom. Wait, it’s dark. I’m lost. Where’s the bedroom.

    Sweetheart: Last door on the left at the end of the hall.

    Wellhung: I found it.

    Sweetheart: I’m tugging off your pants. I’m moaning. I want you so badly.

    Wellhung: Me too.

    Sweetheart: Your pants are off. I kiss you passionately – our naked bodies pressing against each other.

    Wellhung: Your face is pushing my glasses into my face. It hurts.

    Sweetheart: Why don’t you take off you glasses?

    Wellhung: OK, but I can’t see very well without them. I place the glasses on the night table.

    Sweetheart: I’m bending over the bed. Give it to me, baby!

    Wellhung: I have to pee. I’m fumbling my way blindly across the room and toward the bathroom.

    Sweetheart: Hurry back, lover.

    Wellhung: I find the bathroom. It’s dark. I’m feeling around for the toilet. I lift the lid.

    Sweetheart: I’m waiting eagerly for your return.

    Wellhung: I’m done going. I’m feeling around for the flush handle, but I can’t find it. Uh-oh!

    Sweetheart: What’s the matter now?

    Wellhung: I’ve realized that I’ve peed into your laundry hamper. Sorry again. I’m walking back to the bedroom now, blindly feeling my way.

    Sweetheart: Mmm, yes. Come on.

    Wellhung: OK, now I’m going to put my … you know … thing … in your … you know … woman’s thing.

    Sweetheart: Yes! Do it, baby! Do it!

    Wellhung: I’m touching your smooth butt. It feels so nice. I kiss your neck. Umm, I’m having a little trouble here.

    Sweetheart: I’m moving my ass back and forth, moaning. I can’t stand it another second! Slide it in! Screw me now!

    Wellhung: I’m flaccid.

    Sweetheart: What?

    Wellhung: I’m limp. I can’t sustain an erection.

    Sweetheart: I’m standing up and turning around, an incredulous look on my face.

    Wellhung: I’m shrugging with a sad look on my face, my weiner all floppy. I’m going to get my glasses and see what’s wrong.

    Sweetheart: No, never mind. I’m getting dressed. I’m putting on my underwear. Now I’m putting on my wet, nasty blouse.

    Wellhung: No wait! Now I’m squinting, trying to find the night table. I’m feeling along the dresser, knocking over cans of hair spray, picture frames and your candles.

    Sweetheart: I’m buttoning my blouse. Now I’m putting on my shoes.

    Wellhung: I’ve found my glasses. I’m putting them on. My God! One of your candles fell on the curtain. The curtain is on fire! I’m pointing at it, a shocked look on my face.

    Sweetheart: Go to hell. I’m logging off, you loser!

    Wellhung: Now the carpet is on fire! Oh noooo!

    1. Opinions vary.

      Mine being that in most “civilised” countries a just punishment for killing would be, to capture and punish the culprit(s) not the entire country that the culprit(s) possibly come from. In addition I believe both Bush and Obama to be puppets, neither better than the other. So far as going to war it is your right to feel justified but do not allow yourself to forget that the crimes on this page that people are becoming so disgusted and upset over carry many resemblances to crimes that have occured over in the countries you claim you have a right to be in. The only difference being when a war is in occurance the crimes are more often described as “collateral damage” rather than “murder” However, how else should the murder and rape of children be classified? are they terrorists? If you claim to be disgusted with the rapes and murders perpetrated by Jeffrey Dahmer how can you not be equally ashamed of crimes committed by service men out in Afghanistan?
      (P.S, Sorry for my spelling in places I am Dyslexic.)

  230. Innocent, your actually 16? wow. haha thats pretty awesome.. I was afraid I was the only 16-year-old interested in serial killers, ahah

  231. umm to all you people who think george dubya started the war, did you miss the part in history class where it has to pass congress by two thirds vote get real

  232. @innocent, srry i havent replied, i was on a date with my BF. ummm thznk u fer the advice…. sum of wat u have told me i have told her…. but no she wants to get back at him . you know i may just tell her to come here. but thank u babiie and innocent… btw that was hilarious, the sskit hahahah thats funnny.

  233. you people need to get your facts rite h.h. holmes or dr.holmes as you call it killed for more then jus 2 years

    1. Jester, Holmes went on a major killing spree only from 1893 onwards. It was during this period that a majority of the killing was done.

  234. seriously get your facts rite you got bundys and geins timeline all wrong come on people these are my heros dont discrace them

  235. @Greg Land- No one has recently said anything about George W. Bush! Mind your own business… WE only talk about things that matter…like stupid whores, Juliette (the one who posts dumb sh**), and relationships. Go find another website if all you are interested in is defending Bush. Thx

    @King James- Sorry everyones been ignoring you! Well, hello. I’m innocent. Not really, that’s just what I call myself. lol 😉
    I think the only person who would know why Kurt Cobain killed himself was the man himself. 🙁 Well him, And God. I’m sure God knows. I’ll ask him when I see him… haha 🙂

  236. Hey, what happened? Was that too graphic. I knew we shouldn’t’ve done that innocent. Geez. now we’re screwed.

    🙁 Sorry, dude. Won’t do it again.

  237. @jester- I wouldn’t be admitting serial killers are your heroes, idiot. They are the monsters of siciety. The reason people lie awake at night. Don’t say stupid things, mmk?

    exibit A-

    jester Says:
    July 20th, 2009 at 3:49 am
    these are my heros dont discrace them

    Moronic thing to say jester

  238. Look, I apologize about earlier. I won’t use language like that again. I promise. I messed up. Fogive me. I know we aren’t supposed to use profanity, or lewd comments. I had a lapse in judgement. Please forgive me. Everyone: I am sorry.

    🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁

  239. @ jester – these people are your heros? come on. As a child, who HONESTLY says “I want to be just like Ted Bundy when I grow up! 😀 ”

    I agree with innocent (again). Dont say stupid things.

  240. well well well, I came to this website for a good read and well…the forum seemed to give me more of a read lol From GW, to Ed not killing , to random jews and hitler to even a sex convo…wow, serial killers make quite an impression lol

    My views- 1: GW was not a serial killer, but he did order ppl too.
    2: Solders choose to be solders, they kill because they signed up too!
    3: Hitler killer no one but himself, he got greedy and used his powers for evil.
    4: Adam Sandler is a jew and he’s sexy and therefor Jew=good good lol
    5: This site is missing a few ppl but thats ok too
    6: Egyption and Pagans were around long before jews or cathlolics and the bible was writen buy MAN!…sick man who had dissorders just like the crazzys in this site, they had voices in there heads, and saw things that were not there, they were crazy( burning Bushes that talk? LMAO) SUURE ok!

  241. I agreed, serial killers are monsters of society but they are very entertaining so i kinda understand why people admire them but on the hand it says alot about yourself if you really like serial killers. And nice to meet you too innocent.

  242. Innocent Bystander, the comedy sketch thing……….HALARIOUS!!
    um yeah i know am late too reading it….

  243. @babiee- Thx for agreeing with me!

    @important- adam sandler is sexyy! lol but I disagree about the last part. Yeah, man wrote the bible…where’d they get the sroty though? God does exist.

    @king james- I don’t admire serial killers..i think it is intriging (misspelled?) to know why they did what they did… 🙂

    And to EVERYONE- google that band, Macabre. They have some awesomely sick songs. One whole album is dedicated to J. Dahmer!! WHOA! 😉

  244. You must remember:

    Those who aspire to heal follow those in the medical profession;

    Those who aspire to teach follow those in the teaching profession;

    Those with a desire to kill follow those who kill.

    Yes, there are some children that actually say they want to be like Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy when they are growing up.

    Unfortunately, their parents don’t or won’t see the signs and either get them treatment early, or off them early. And, yes, by off them, I mean kill them young.

    I’d rather see one parent off their offspring than see that offspring grow up and kill in masses.

    Unfortunately, we can’t be positively sure whose child is going to do what when they are grown.

  245. @babiee- you can tell how interested in serial killers i am…i have barely talked about them!!

    @All Y’all- LOOK UP MACABRE—Awesome…yet creepy…and scary..but cool

  246. @Innocent Bystander: Where did they get the story from? there twisted genius minds!:) Same with the righter of harry potter, loard of the rings, or the ppl who right tv shows and movies, just because someone says there true doesn’t mean that it is. I can wright a book tomarow saying the worlds going to end if everyone doesn’t ware neon yellow…doesn’t mean it is or that you should beleive it. Specialy is i hear voices in my head telling me to talk to a burning bush, or watching a stick turn into a snake thats called MUSHROOMS, which by the way were grown in the wild in thoughs times same with marijuana:) So you really shouldn’t beleive every scitso or high person just because there books are very entertaining!

  247. @Lucky 17- yes, the sacrifice of one for the people they would end up killing is definately worth it. Morbid, I know. But I do agree with you! 🙂

    @IMPORTANT- wow…you can’t spell for sh*t. First of all, none of those authors have tried to tell us their books are real. That’s why if you go to the LIBRARY (where you should be. Learning how to spell) you would find Harry Potter and The Lord of The Rings in the fiction area. Honestly, I don’t give two sh*ts if you believe in God. More room in Heaven for the rest of us. But, blaming the story of God on people being high is totally wrong, and off the wall. You have to have faith, to believe, I guess. Which you obviously don’t have. And that makes me pity you. Wouldn’t you rather believe there is someone up there protecting you? Wouldn’t you feel safer if you knew you’d have a better life after death? I was not raised in a Christian home, I found my salvation later. I’m only sixteen, I went through some hard times. After I lived through them, and my heart was healed I knew there had to be someone watching over me. And I don’t think I’m wrong about this…but you have a right to your opinion, and I will respect that. I hope you find God…

    That’s all folks!


  248. Wow…I wish you people would come here and talk!!

    Let’s talk about Ed Gein.

    Did anyone google Macabre?

  249. I looked up Macabre. And they are very narrow about doing songs of jut serial killers and things alike. Its very interesting but strange. And are we the only ones on this website??!!

  250. @babiee- OMG! ME too!! You are my new best friend. Let’s turn this bitc* into a twilight conversation…sorry to any males who don’t like twilight.

    I am in love with Edward, and Robert Pattinson!!


  251. @Innocent Bystander : No, I think it’s stupid to think there is even anything after death lol You say you went through hard times and your only in high school? Well I went through alot to but im not going to “hope” some random thing is going to help make it better, because it really isn’t, it wont get better, and its not going to change. That’s called LIFE! Start living it! Im not going to listen to some bull in a book telling me all these things are bad and im going to rot in hell for doing them. That’s stupid, not to mention that nothing in that stupid book add’s up, in ANY of them since there’s so many. Oh and as for the spelling, yeah thats what having a chunk of my brain removed because of cancer will do to you…oh that must have been that good old good coming to save the day again YA OK! NOT! I have come to realise that when your neer death most people go one of two ways, god..or no god. I choose to be the more realistic one. Because if there is a “God” then that god is one sick F@#$. WOW, Puting people like the this website on earth, puting people like hitler, child molesters, freak storms wipeing out whole nations. If you want to beleive he “loves you” you go ahead, but it sounds more like a sick joke to me!

  252. @Imprortant- Okay, here we go. Yeah, I am in high school and I’ve been through sh*t. Life does get better. It has for me, ever since I started believing in God… Nice try, giving me the guilt trip because I said you can’t spell! You, of all people, should be a believer. You experienced cancer, and survived. Were your family members praying for you? I think He let you live so you would become a believer. But I guess His plan back fired. You’re still a selfish bit*h!! 🙁 And you’re obviously not getting the whole idea of God. He makes everyone the same, equal. And along their trip if sh*t happens they become fu*k ups. People make their own decisions, because the God that loves you very much gave you ‘Free Will’. As for using the excuse that ‘life sucks, so deal with it’. That’s absolutely pathetic!! If you’re unhappy, do something about it. There’s always a way to make sh*t better, at least temporarily. I understand that you went through something that I would never want ANYONE to go through, and I am truly glad you made it through… that says something, you know? I’m done being bit*hy to you. I just wanted to persuade you that God is there. And even if he isn’t, which I highly doubt, I would rather take the disappointment in the end (when I die) than have gone living through life being paranoid and unhappy. I am willing to take that risk. And I think you should be, too.

  253. This is really a great and interesting thing for me. Before read of thsi article I feel that the world is nice and good. but I was wrong.and now I sort of thing that there is lots of serial killers who is not capture and giving pain to huminity.